German attic-found time capsule - Picture overload!

[Brookwood]

I've noticed that too, it's incredibly precise writing! I only see that type of writing today when I get letters from Poland written by my elderly relatives. Sometimes you'd think they were penned by machines!
I guess the threat of the strap gives you some extra focus on your letters lol!

I was taught that style by my Grandparents when I was a child. It's called Sutterlin script and it is my everyday handwriting. I don't do it to be different or because it's trendy, it's just permanently in my muscle memory from practice, practice, practice. I get a bashful chuckle because people will often watch me write something and then ask me to write their name on a scrap op paper! If you'd like to learn more about Sutterlin (it helps with research) check out this link - http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Sutterlin.htm

Brookwood

 

[Mr. Dynamite]

Glad you all enjoyed this find as much as I did! I was particularly happy when I got word that it had been found, and if the find was not amazing enough, the only cost involved was for me to cover shipping! The finder did not wish to make a profit from memorabilia of an era that brought so much hardship to so many people, and only kept it from heading to the garbage because he knows I collect everything I can find from the war, but dont agree with that ideology. I completely see where he is coming from with that view, and as it has also been mentioned here, that decade was not without sorrow and hardship, my own family included and many of the members on here who have shared their stories in the past. However, I believe at this point in history, so removed from these events, these artifacts tell a story, and they should be preserved to be able to tell that story to future generations. Some times these stories are good, and sometimes these stories are bad - for me I would not avoid collecting something just because the greater political story associated with it was evil. The Russian communists caused quite a bit of death and hardship in my family's past, and yet I have no problem (well, maybe a little, they are commies after all) collecting artifacts from their involvement in WW2. Collecting and letting people see and touch these links to the past keeps the stories real and alive. And I completely agree with the sentiment shared that it is a shame when collections like this end up in a museum. Museums should just display repos and replicas of some items, firearms included!

To answer some questions, no these 2 brothers who set this stuff aside years ago are not related to me. The fellow who (litterally) pulled this out of his attic knew them though.

Some of the photos suggest the officer had a personal relationship to Goring himself.

Actually what is going on there is all those pictures are from the book I showed previous to them, a propaganda piece by Fat Hermann

Thank you also to the member that pointed out the other soldiers in the photo were Romanians. I did not know that and was wondering.

As far as the year of the DC3 flight that is recorded, let me dig into that a little more and I will have to update the tread when I find that out. Log book one has a start date recorded, but not an end date. Log book 2 has both a start and an end recorded, but I am not sure if there is overlap. I tried counting years as each 12 months were recorded in the book, but I need to do it more accurately to be sure.

Can someone who knows about soldbuchs tell me, what was his latest company/division placement? It seems all the ones in the first couple pages are crossed out, as well as all the ones on the overflow page, #17.

Thanks to all who have added, I enjoy these little extra bits of knowledge contributed. When I get a chance I will also be posting it on some other military history forums to see what can be learned.

 

[BARInfan7ry]

Thank you for sharing, interesting items indeed. Wonder how many more like these are hidden in the corners of Germany and abroad today?

 

[fraserdw]

Glad you all enjoyed this find as much as I did! I was particularly happy when I got word that it had been found, and if the find was not amazing enough, the only cost involved was for me to cover shipping! The finder did not wish to make a profit from memorabilia of an era that brought so much hardship to so many people, and only kept it from heading to the garbage because he knows I collect everything I can find from the war, but dont agree with that ideology. I completely see where he is coming from with that view, and as it has also been mentioned here, that decade was not without sorrow and hardship, my own family included and many of the members on here who have shared their stories in the past. However, I believe at this point in history, so removed from these events, these artifacts tell a story, and they should be preserved to be able to tell that story to future generations. Some times these stories are good, and sometimes these stories are bad - for me I would not avoid collecting something just because the greater political story associated with it was evil. The Russian communists caused quite a bit of death and hardship in my family's past, and yet I have no problem (well, maybe a little, they are commies after all) collecting artifacts from their involvement in WW2. Collecting and letting people see and touch these links to the past keeps the stories real and alive. And I completely agree with the sentiment shared that it is a shame when collections like this end up in a museum. Museums should just display repos and replicas of some items, firearms included!

To answer some questions, no these 2 brothers who set this stuff aside years ago are not related to me. The fellow who (litterally) pulled this out of his attic knew them though.



Actually what is going on there is all those pictures are from the book I showed previous to them, a propaganda piece by Fat Hermann

Thank you also to the member that pointed out the other soldiers in the photo were Romanians. I did not know that and was wondering.

As far as the year of the DC3 flight that is recorded, let me dig into that a little more and I will have to update the tread when I find that out. Log book one has a start date recorded, but not an end date. Log book 2 has both a start and an end recorded, but I am not sure if there is overlap. I tried counting years as each 12 months were recorded in the book, but I need to do it more accurately to be sure.

Can someone who knows about soldbuchs tell me, what was his latest company/division placement? It seems all the ones in the first couple pages are crossed out, as well as all the ones on the overflow page, #17.

Thanks to all who have added, I enjoy these little extra bits of knowledge contributed. When I get a chance I will also be posting it on some other military history forums to see what can be learned.

DC3 was made in Europe by Fokker. DC3 were captured by from the Czech, Dutch, Belgian airlines and sold to Lufthansa by the NAZI party in 1941. there was 11 aircraft in all. The Fokker made no DC3 during the war due to lack of engines and other German priorities. In 1944 all surviving DC3 that were in use were with the special group out of Berlin. DC3 were used for convert missions to drop agents behind allied lines, to ferry special cargos to neutral Sweden and for general VIP passenger ferry missions. They were superior to all German Transport aircraft. They had a steady rate of loss during war. Late in the war, they were getting a reputation as widow makers being old and strung together with few spares. Only one survived the war, in the British zone and the RAF used it to ferry technical loot out of Germany, it was scrapped in UK after those flights.

 

[MoreMilsurpMoreFun]

Thanks for sharing, i had family that served on both sides in WWII and only wish i had this much documentation look into their lives.

 

[Butcherbill]

Thanks for sharing, i had family that served on both sides in WWII and only wish i had this much documentation look into their lives.

Yes, thanks for sharing. This is amazing to see all together, glad it's in private hands and kept together. Regardless of how people feel about the Nazi legacy it's something that should be able to be viewed, especially from a historical standpoint.

I have family on both sides that had involvement in WW2 so I've always found the subject riviting. I wish I knew more personal info about some of my fathers relations, which is the German side. Had a cousin that was a successful me109 pilot, he was shot down and killed just before the end of the war in Europe. Some other relatives that were on the eastern front for a bit, the one brother was a medic and made it off the eastern front. As well as my grandfather who was taken by the Russians and worked to death in slave labour camps in Siberia. My moms father, worked on the assembly line building Mosquito fighter bombers in Toronto at De Havilland.

 

[Sharps '74]

Recounting history is not trolling. My late Panzer Grenadier father-in-law swore the same oath of unquestioning obedience. As far as I know, he was not a member of the Nazi Party. He came back to Germany in 1951. The Russians held him and many thousands more responsible for the excesses and destruction of the invasion during "The Great Patriotic War".

And yes, there was no option. This is why it was so hard for many honourable soldiers and Officers to stand by that oath when it was obvious that the Nazi regime was rotten and evil to the core.

1.) The Reichswehreid/Führereid began in August 1934, and Civil Servants were forced to take it as well. It was also strongly encouraged to be recited in schools, hospitals, churches, ect, by all members of society, of all ages. It was a dictatorship after all, and being a police state, if you didn't participate there were consequences.

2.) Your ignorant comment doesn't warrant a response, it speaks for its self.

Now, can we please stop all the trolling?

 

[shortandlong]

I gotta add I would rather see stuff like this survive than some pusy eyed sjw wonder around with a Che shirt or commie star hat

 

[joe6167]

So what you're saying, and I agree with completely, is that private, amateur collectors do a better job than museums.

In the non-firearms field that I am involved in with, my buddy has a collection that puts the actual museum we volunteer at to shame 100x over!

 

[jbmauser]

Thanks for posting this! Very interesting and a spectacular collection!

 

[Ganderite]

The Germans certainly made good at scooping up aircraft in occupied countries and no doubt gathered more from forced landings, Russian front, etc once the allied started air operations against them.

http://histaviation.com/Douglas_DC_3.html

It is not a flopped negative. The registration letters are correct. I have never seen a DC3 with a door on the right. Maybe this is a DC3 made in Germany?

 

[MetricMan]

It is not a flopped negative. The registration letters are correct. I have never seen a DC3 with a door on the left. Maybe this is a DC3 made in Germany?

This DC-3-194-G is actually a Dutch machine. Delivered to KLM July 7, 1939. The Dutch called it the 'MEES' (Titmouse). Captured by the Germans at Schipol and assigned to the Luftwaffe as D-ATJG. This plane crashed at Oslo in 1941 and was repaired by Swissair in 1942. Believed to have been strafed and destroyed in 1944 / 45. There's a bit of a write up about this plane in a book called 'Strangers in a Strange Land', )Squadron / signal publications.)

 

[Recce21]

Here here! Him and Sharps have more than a couple Communist loving screws loose.

Good for you, I lost branches of my family in Auschwitz and Ravensbruck. My Grandfather was a slave for 6 years. Is that relevant to this thread? No. Do you think your personal loss allows you to push the disgusting notion of collective guilt? It does not.