German hunting rifle ID

[Sask_Hunter]

I was recently gifted this old rifle from my father in-law that was his father in-laws. Story goes that my wife’s grandpa took this rifle on trade as part of some work he did. It’s been sitting for close to 40 years and need a good cleaning.

I’m not finding much info on this rifle any where in the internet and would like some help on what it is

Guss Stahl Krupp Essen is stamped on the barrel in front of the reciver. I understand that Krupp was the factory the metal was made in and Essen is the town in German it was built.

Here are some pictures on it to help

Proof marks on the receiver. St.m.G is stamped just below the wood line

Proof marks and caliber stamp on the under side of the barrel (8.7mm)

Interesting front site with two different posts

Folding rear sites

Stock cracked at the wrist and has been bolted together

 

[r.j.medals2]

More photos please , both sides, the sites and all the stamps etc Thx

 

[Sask_Hunter]

More photos please , both sides, the sites and all the stamps etc Thx

Fixed the pictures for you

 

[Dogfish858]

M88 guild rifle in 8x57j (.318)

 

[9.3mauser]

I believe what you have is a Mannlicher Haenel. Guss Stahl translates to " cast steel ", Krupp would be the manufacturer of the barrel, Essen the town. It's likely a 9x57mm. The 8.7mm proof stamp would be the bore diameter before the rifling is cut.

 

[Dogfish858]

*duh* on my end.

I had one identical and resorted to default.

 

[sail32]

The " Alfa Waffenkatalog 1911 ", by Adolf Frank shows pictures of similiar rifles.

Down loadable PFD = https://archive.org/details/AlfaWaffenkatalog1911

https://archive.org/details/AlfaWaffenkatalog1911/page/n327

 

[Potashminer]

That "St. m. G." helps in dating it.

From the germanguns.com site: (and, from other sources, and two examples that I have here,I believe the example below was for an 8x57 cartridge)

"Rifles marked with only an indication of powder charge and bullet type as shown below date to 1912 or before:

2,67 g GBP
St m G

These marks show 2,67 grams of Gewehr Blättchen Pulver (military flake powder) and Stahl-mantel Geschoss (steel jacketed bullet). Other possible types are "K m G" for Kupfer-mantel Geschoss (copper jacketed bullet) and "Bl G" for Blei Geschoss (plain lead bullet).


After 1912 marks were changed to show just bullet type and bullet weight as in:

St m G
12 g"

 

[Sask_Hunter]

Thanks for the insite, dogfish helped me out a lot and thank you to him.

I’ve got some cerrosafe in order for a chamber cast and I will slug the bore before I go all crazy with it.

 

[hollowedpoint]

It is a classic! Very old school world craftsmenship, long dead now a days.