german k43 qve45 8mm mauser

There's a big difference between a "refinished" stock as you originally claimed, and a re-contoured and shortened stock (which is what you have).

Forget $1800. Your rifle has dropped in value to under $1000 - I agree with the posters who also said so.

When these fetch $1800+. $800 or more of the value is a restorable stock (yours isn't). When they fetch north of $2500, the stock better be untouched since a dead German dropped it or a scared German surrendered it.
 
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It breaks my heart to see this rifle bubbad like this. Hopefully someone will rescue it and restore it to it's formal glory.
 
backwood said:
well my curiosity is getting the better of me, i will send it to a gun verifyer i know, i am quite sure it is not a vopo. i will repost the results when i find out.. maybe research the numbers on it and find out where it came from.. cheers :)
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Hopefully your "Verifier" is more knowledgeable than the one who "verified" one of My G43's... :redface:

My qve45 K43 was verified as "German Service Rifle"..... :rolleyes:

Also, verifiers don't necessarily know what the German Military Ordnance codes are, and which manufacturer they translate to... Also, I wouldn't guarantee that they all know the market value of a Bubba'ed K43 either. ;)

My opinion is $800 for a Bubba Volkspoleizei K43, $1000 if an ALL matching original un-refurbed Bubba WW2 G43 (except for the stock of course). This is my personal opinion. Best of luck in your sale! :)

PS: Here is what a "Vopo" (Volkspolizei) "sunburst marking will look like on a K43 Receiver... It may be stamped in a different spot though.

The Sunburst stamp is right between the serial number letter block and the K43 designation on this rifle.

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Oh also, I cannot tell from your pictures, but if the rough metal on the receiver was polished up at all, it will be worth even less, around $600, IMHO. If it is drilled an tapped anywhere, take of another $100.... :(
 
Coyote Ugly said:
And the Low Balling Begins once again on CGN!
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You should offer him $3000! I am sure he would be happy with it! :)

Good to know that there are buyers on here who will offer me above market value for Bubba rifles!!! Hurray!

PS: I have some nice Ross Sporters to sell, I heard some guy say they could be worth $1200, buy them from me!! :D

When I post an opinion of value, I state, "In my PERSONAL opinion"... ;)

Cheers! :cheers:
 
Ah the wonderful world of G.43s.

As long as SVT 40s are out there, you may be hard pressed to find someone willing to pay $1000 or more for a G.43 that someone bubba'd. Granted this one can be restored but how many people are going to sit down and actually go through the process ? Probably not many.

I would be interested in restoring this one but I can't afford a high price tag that the market seems to be at for these.
 
Coyote Ugly said:
It's time for the Math Lesson of the Day!

Everybody wants something for nothing these days it seems! :p

It's not hard to find a replacement original G/K43 stock and butt plate.

Well, take a close look here:

When Jose Reis (Zefarm) was in business in Quebec, I remember Two Vopo G/K43's that sold for $2500 and $3000 within a week of being posted. And one stock was sanded/contoured just like Backwood's but had the metal butt plate.

An Original G/K43 is worth a lot more money than a Vopo rework G/K43.

There is an Original G/K43 for sale at Wolverine Supplies for $4250 in the Dealers Section.


Here is another ad (agentcq) on the CGN Equipment Exchange from Jan 26, 2012 for two G/K43's. (from $4500-$5000 for a duffle cut)

This same seller (agentcq) also had another G/K43 Vopo for sale for $2800 with a sanded wrist and sanded stock.
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I am not denying that someone can ask whatever price they want for a rifle they wish to sell. I wish this new G43 owner the best of luck in selling his rifle, and getting as much as he can for it. :)

After all, he will get as much as a buyer is willing to pay for it, and that is a good thing. I was only giving my personal opinion on what I personally thought his rifle is worth... not what he can GET for it. ;)

Something for nothing is quite the misnomer as you are implying that he would getting robbed? :confused: If he is happy with a certain price, and the buyer is happy paying it, who is to judge?

I have paid fair market values for matching intact G43's, and was very happy with what I purchased, also the sellers were happy as they paid almost next to nothing for them when they first purchased them. One seller told me he got one of them for $100 (Good for him!)!!! :eek: Yet he offered it to me at fair market value, and I paid it happily! He got a deal, and he made a great profit, and I got a matching G43! :) He was honest and upfront, and he was getting much needed funds for something else. WIN WIN! :D

G43's are very desirable and sought after (as you well know) and I am sure he could ask $3000 for it and could probably get quite a few offers for less, or he could even get $3000... who knows??? When an individual comes on here and asks the Milsurp Collective Body what they think his rifle/pistol is worth, he will get many answers; high, low... serious, sarcastic, and some downright looney! There is no need to mock, tease or berate other CGNers because one does not agree with their estimates. It is ALL subjective estimates and guesses until the piper is paid. ;)

*shock* And of course don't forget... some CGNers might be lowballing so they can get a deal... and reversely, some CGNers might be shooting to the moon for their estimates because they want their personal rifles/sales to be just as lucrative... ;) (Oh the ulterior motives, oh my!!!) :p *shock*

I am beginning to like Smellies approach to explaining the history and technical facts on firearms which are getting the "CGN Appraisal", and leaving the dollar values up to the owner/paid appraisers of the firearm! :)

Again, good luck to the seller, I hope he gets what he wants for his K43.

Cheers all! :cheers:
 
just because some one posts a price for sale ,that does not mean it sold for that price.
you want to pay America prices go right ahead. but most people here will not. maybe they were exported. maybe shops like Wolverine want to export there firearms for top dollar. or can afford to have them sit in inventory. there are firearms sitting in shops for years just ask Milarm.
 
It's all supply and demand and they don't make them anymore.
Look at Garands today - $900 to $1800.
Back in the late 90's they were $99 to $275.
Gone up 6.5 times to 18 times since then! And people just suck them back like beer!

A G43 was $500-$600 back then and most people thought that was expensive!

The Good Old Days!
 
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I would love to restore this rifle, but price is still the deciding factor. At the end of the day, I'd have a mismatched K43. Worth some money yes, but probably only when I'd have to pay for it. He has to price it accordingly, or it won't move. But not too low, as it still has value for sure. Just how much really depends on the buyer he finds.
 
Also threads like this shouldn't be allowed or follow smellies rules, no value. If someone comes into an old rifle, they should put the time in researching it, to earn the profit. Post a thread asking about serials, maker etc, not just a first post how much can I get thread. I'm not gonna suggest values anymore either. If someone just wants things handed to them, they should wake up, lol.
 
CanadianAR said:
Also threads like this shouldn't be allowed or follow smellies rules, no value. If someone comes into an old rifle, they should put the time in researching it, to earn the profit. Post a thread asking about serials, maker etc, not just a first post how much can I get thread. I'm not gonna suggest values anymore either. If someone just wants things handed to them, they should wake up, lol.
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A lot of people don't have the time or interest to do the research, and simply want to sell what they think could be a valuable milsurp gun. If nobody is willing to give them a price, they will likely google search the type of gun they have and go with an asking price based on what they see on American auction sites or expensive dealer sites.

This is a forum where lots of knowledgeable Canadian milsurp gun collectors hang out, and discussing the value of milsurp guns is a logical topic. The problem is when potential sellers receive bad appraisals, or base their prices on suggestions from those who have little knowledge on the gun the seller wants to get rid of.

I have some knowledge of certain milsurp guns, but little of others. If someone posts a gun I know a lot about I am happy to give an opinion of value. If I don't know, I won't post or try to guess. Seems like many replies are more likely members who care only about upping their post count, and not actually providing an accurate appraisal.

-Steve
 
I don't think there are too many members on milsurp who give a damn about post count. In the end post count is a measure of time you spend on a computer, not knowledge.
I understand what you're saying but at the same time I still disagree. Northing is free, if they want the profit they should have to invest some time.
And if they try to sell at auction prices, or american prices, they won't be able to sell the item in question. I'm just saying there are a lot of threads asking the value, what would it hurt for the person to spend an hour? Maybe they'd learn something. And its the same as cars, if you don't know #### all about it, you shouldn't be selling it.
 
well i have looked all over this rifle and can find no sunburst symbols. there is a 2884d then k43 qve45 nothing in between. the d looks like hand writing. there is also a tiny 214 stamped on the front of the reciever. if you take the bolt out there is a 2 stamped on the right edge of the reciever. i will take some better pics later and post them for kicks. i will be doing some research to find out what i can about it. there is a 2884d also stamped on the bolt. dont shoot me but my interest's lie in more modern rifles so this k43 will be sold but not given away..i thank everyone for there imput good or bad. maybe i will just restore her and put it back in the safe for another 20-30yrs...
 
Here's an interesting photo, more than just G/K43's there:

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Looks like Kubschütz was a small town located east of Dresden on a rail line very close to where the border of Germany, Poland and Czech Replublic meet. The area city of Liegnitz (Legnica) Poland just 50 miles to the east of this area was captured by the Russians on 10 Feb, 1945

Location of photo: Bautzen in Saxony, Germany; April 25, 1945.

Bautzen is in Saxony and just a few kilometers to the southeast is Kubshutz so the location of the photo seems correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...zen_(1945)

According to the article it was the last German victory of the war. They held out until the end with the recapture of Bautzen.
 
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