German K98 Mauser

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Hey guys/gals,

I recently picked up a German K98, I was wondering who else has one and what they think of there's? I really like mine, more so for the History of the Gun and looks.:sniper:
 
I'm sure many of us have one. You're right on the history and looks. And they shoot well too. Now we just have to find the milsurp ammo to feed them. I pick up mine at various gun shows. Still cheaper than comercial although I recently picked up some PRVI at a gun shop for $17.95 a box. Enjoy!
 
More detail req'd from the frozen north. Factory No.? Is it a russian capture? Many 98's shoot high at 100yds, solved with higher front sight or reloading. I reload with both jacketed and cast bullets.
 
glycerin said:
More detail req'd from the frozen north. Factory No.? Is it a russian capture? Many 98's shoot high at 100yds, solved with higher front sight or reloading. I reload with both jacketed and cast bullets.
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Mine is a British Capture, it is a K98 7X57 (7mm) German Mauser, Mfg #'s 359 37 37, Mauser, Obendorf- "byf" 41, with also CE above the 41 on the receiver. It has a laminate stock, ser#5295. It's not all matching and was redone sometime after the war.

I take it you are interested in the K98.
 
ChubbsMcGee said:
Mine is a British Capture, it is a K98 7X57 (7mm) German Mauser, Mfg #'s 359 37 37, Mauser, Obendorf- "byf" 41, with also CE above the 41 on the receiver. It has a laminate stock, ser#5295. It's not all matching and was redone sometime after the war.

I take it you are interested in the K98.
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Soo much wrong with this i dont even know where to start.
 
I love my Israeli 7.62 , it has put some high dollar rifles to shame.
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Did I mention its a tackdriver? 300m, irons, M118 ammo. Can I ever do that again? Probably not.
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Hitzy said:
Soo much wrong with this i dont even know where to start.
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So are you telling me those numbers are not on my gun, and the fact that it's been bore checked by a Gunsmith, and that all the searching I've done for info on my gun I come up with the info provided above and then some. On the side of my gun it has NP 7X57 18.5 tons which, I've been told is whats indicating that it's a British capture?. It has the German eagle with Swastika on the side of the receiver and other places.

So why don't you start, and educate me! I am always open to info!!
 
I also recently picked up a Israeli conversion it still has some ss markings on it, my favorite rifle as far as looks and feel go.
 
ChubbsMcGee said:
So are you telling me those numbers are not on my gun, and the fact that it's been bore checked by a Gunsmith, and that all the searching I've done for info on my gun I come up with the info provided above and then some. On the side of my gun it has NP 7X57 18.5 tons which, I've been told is whats indicating that it's a British capture?. It has the German eagle with Swastika on the side of the receiver and other places.

So why don't you start, and educate me! I am always open to info!!
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Well for starters, np 7x57 18.5 tons does sound like a Brit proof but does not indicate British capture. Second, if it is 7x57 somebody changed the barrel because the Germans made them in 8x57.
 
ChubbsMcGee said:
So why don't you start, and educate me! I am always open to info!!
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359 37 37 are not mfg#. They are Waffenamt, German Military inspection and acceptance codes. They are specific to the teams of inspectors assigned to specific factories. 359 and 37 are specific to the JP Sauer und Sohn factory. CE is the manufacture code of the JP sauer and Sohn factory as well. These codes are usually found stamped on the receiver of the rifle, so without seeing it, i would suggets that your rifle is really a JP Sauer. I don't know where the byf code is seen. Your rifle appears to me largely missmatched and i would think that Oberndorf was responsible for the manufacture of one of those missmatched part.

I have never heard the term " British capture". Certainly not in the way we understand "Russian Capture" to mean. Mauser did manufacture some 7mm models, notably for spain, but i find no reference that would indicate that it was done in 1941 in the middle of the German war effort, so i would think this was done after the war.

This being said, you obviously enjoy your Mauser and I'm glad you do. I have several myself , and liek you i use my missmatch to shoot. I have a bunch of Heer 1937 surplus. Quite a recoil compared ot the commercial 170 gr.

Cheers!
 
The "byf" is on the fixed magazine plate on the bottom of the gun. As far as the British capture term go's, we have a gunsmith down in my area who is an avid German gun collector and has several German Mausers even one of the first versions with the small scope and the second version with the bigger scope. Really nice guns!!! He informed me of the this, but was not 100% on it. I should take some close up pictures of my rifle for you guys to see. My bad on the inspection codes, as far as the 7mm goes and it being suggested that the bore has been changed, I would agree if the bore started out at 7mm and was made bigger, but to suggest that the bore was 8mm and changed to 7mm is I think a little far fetched.
When I first got the rifle I was searching for any info on these guns and found alot, some that I may even have confused with my gun but I do remember seeing 7mm German Mausers. I had the chamber checked to make sure I was going to be shooting the correct ammo and indeed it takes 7x57 ammo!!

Not trying to be an expect or smart ass here, just looking for answers like others are. I do not respect those who comment with remarks like"so much wrong with this I don't know where to start" or saying things like the marking don't make sense and don't offer up info they may have.

I'm just a gun enthusiast like you guys!!
 
I absolutely love these, so full of history and beautifully crafted. Please post pics, I can never get enough of the k98 whether capture pieces or not:)
 
ChubbsMcGee said:
So why don't you start, and educate me! I am always open to info!!
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You might want to start by reviewing the Oberndorf K98k's in the in the Germany - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here) http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15

There are thousands of pics by individual year and markings vary as the years progressed.

We have dozens of "all correct" K98's and G33/40's waiting to be photographed and added to the library, but work always seems to get in the way of the fun stuff lately ... :D

We will get them all on-line over the next year or so ... ;)

Hope this helps ... :)

Regards,
Badger
 
There were 7x57 mauser 98 rifles built for the Serbians as well as many other countries, especially in South America.

Your rifle sounds like it was sporterised at one time by a British outfit and then proofed to British standards. Many of these rifles, were mixed and matched and the only work done to make them more appealing to hunters was to remove as much excess wood and metal from the military stock as possible.

Some were supposedly "saved" and put back into milsurp stocks to look more original.

Your description is quite vague, so without pictures it's almost impossible to "educate" you.

Take BadgerDog's advice and look in the "Milsurp Knowledge Library". The MKL is well set up and easy to navigate. What you won't find there, will be found in the other sites they will point you to. When it comes to milsurps, any combination can and is possible. Many countries did what they had to do to keep the rifles functional and in service.

Yours, really sounds like it was a post war rework of some sort.
 
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My bad on the inspection codes, as far as the 7mm goes and it being suggested that the bore has been changed, I would agree if the bore started out at 7mm and was made bigger, but to suggest that the bore was 8mm and changed to 7mm is I think a little far fetched.
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Maybe your barrel was changed out to 7mm as all WW2 K98's were 8mm.
If the receiver is CE 41 it should be 8mm. Sounds like a rework with byf parts
(Mauser Oberdorf), 359 WaA is Walther, etc...the main thing is lots of fun to shoot.
 
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You have quite mixed bag of numbers on your gun but the 7X57 part is a bit out of place.


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If its a regular German K98 barrel are there any numbers on the top of the flange that butts up to the receiver?

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