German Mauser long range setup

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I've got myself an R/C German K98, my plan is to use it as a fun shooter/hunting rifle, but I plan to put a scope on and shoot somewhere in the 150 - 300 yard range. I typically shoot 196 gr. Prvi Partisan, and have read mixed reviews on using a K98 for longer range (but they did it back in WW2...). Am I better to keep the irons on and use it as a bush rifle or is there any real advantage to using 196gr 8mm for long range? Either this, or my 30-06 Rem 700BDL gets a scope.
 
I'd say your results will probably depend on the individual condition of that particular milsurp. If it groups fine at 100 yds, 300 shouldn't be an issue. I had read somewhere that the 8mm Mauser carried the most energy at long range out of all the standard issue rifle rounds in the World Wars, but 300 yards isn't a stretch for any of them. I don't know that there's a scope mount for that rifle that doesn't involve drilling and tapping. The extra holes could reduce the value of your rifle, but hey, it's your gun after all. Good luck, hope its a shooter.
 
I'd put a scope of the 700 before I'd D&T a nice old collectible mauser. If it's already been done, then giver. But I'd still scope the one that shoots the best.
 
Apart from the drilling and tapping of an unaltered rifle, unless you are partial to a chinweld instead of a cheekweld, a lot more must be done to an issue Mauser than just installing a scope.
 
ATI makes a mount that doesn't involve drilling and allows the scope to be located over the receiver where it should be, not on the rear sights. It shoots well at 100 yards, but yes I imagine with a scope it would need alot of fine tuning to get right.
 
I have an Israli Mauser and I put the high turret mounts on it. Drilled and tapped for the screws.

As it turns out, the bore of mine is actually more like a 303 Enfield - it measures .311 so I shoot 303 bullets through it.

With 308 ammo it shoots a 2 foot group at 300 meters but with .311 ammo it shoots 6 inch groups at 300 meters.

Not too bad for an old army rifle.
 
For shooting out to 300 yards, any bullet will do. Its size, shape and weight don't matter - choose whichever bullet shoots most accurately for you at 100y/m and you'll be fine. If a flat-based lightweight hunting bullet shoots better groups than a long and sleek match bullet, you're going to get better results at 300 with the former than with the latter.

If you are going to shoot to 500 yards and beyond, it starts to become worthwhile to choose a bullet that retains its speed well.

Mauser iron sights have particularly thin/fine front sight posts and rear sight notches. Depending on your eyes, it can be difficult to see these well (in comparison to thicker sight bits) and get good results.
 
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