German WW 2 Military vehicle motor oils

Coyote Ugly said:
The German Captured Russian tanks were diesel, so the exception...not all German tanks were gasoline!
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It's funny. I've been on the Oilrigs and around heavy diesels my adult life...heck, every load had a 2 stroke GMC diesel in it way back...every engine was a 'Screaming Jimmy'
How did I never see an diesel engine Gel up? I wonder to this day if it wasn't an excuse to do nothing.
 
Coyote Ugly said:
Germany was getting about a third of it`s oil from Ploesti, Romania from their refineries and oil fields. Hence, the US Air Force raid on Ploesti in 1942.

A lot of German tanks were diesel, American were Gasoline.

The oil specification information should be available in army service manuals.

Even an email to Bovington Tank Museum (An operational and running Tiger Tank) in the UK and Aberdeen Proving Ground (US) would surely answer your questions.
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I think you have the fuel types reversed for the two combatants.
 
tokguy said:
It's funny. I've been on the Oilrigs and around heavy diesels my adult life...heck, every load had a 2 stroke GMC diesel in it way back...every engine was a 'Screaming Jimmy'
How did I never see an diesel engine Gel up? I wonder to this day if it wasn't an excuse to do nothing.
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there is winter fuel and summer fuel for diesels. you use winter fuel in your diesel in the winter so it won,t gel up.
 
tokguy said:
It's funny. I've been on the Oilrigs and around heavy diesels my adult life...heck, every load had a 2 stroke GMC diesel in it way back...every engine was a 'Screaming Jimmy'
How did I never see an diesel engine Gel up? I wonder to this day if it wasn't an excuse to do nothing.
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LOTS on the subject of diesel fuel gelling in cold...............Google is your find.
 
antiqueguy said:
with those old diesels they probably just used a thinner fuel like kerosene/home heating oil or gasoline to thin it old school diesel engines will burn just about anything from actual diesel to used motor oil.
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And that is it, I was involved with the ex-East German T72 tanks that came to Canada in the mid 1990s and they came over to Canada with home heating fuel in the tanks (or something very close to it). The tank (T72) had a very capable hand held fuel pump with a crazy long power cable. The theory was the tanks (T72) could "live off the land" for fuel either refueling from civilian gas stations or taking heating fuel from German houses was they made the race across Western Europe for the English Channel.
 
Ganderite said:
I visited the Diamond airplane factory in Kitchener. They had a plane there with a 150 HP diesel engine. Lots of torque to swing the prop and fuel consumption half of my Mooney.

Diesel has some attraction. The Diamond used an engine block from Mercedes. Don't know anything else about it.
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Original company was Thielert, which then became Centurion. They're a great engine, and I got a number of hours behind a 135HP Thielert in a 172. Burning 5GPH of JetA instead of 9+ GPH of AvGas is advantageous, and so is the up to 10 hours of endurance. Range gets cut down a bit, as the TAS in cruise is approximately 10% less than the piston engine. Having FADEC is another advantage, but also a potential nightmare (the emergency procedures can be complex). All in all a good setup, other than the maintenance. Every 1500 hours you have to do a full gear box tear down/overhaul.
 
antiqueguy said:
with those old diesels they probably just used a thinner fuel like kerosene/home heating oil or gasoline to thin it old school diesel engines will burn just about anything from actual diesel to used motor oil.
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I recall a Roughneck hooking up lines wrong; a bank of compounded 6-71's drilled for 4 hours sucking on Hydraul 56, I'd imagine that 'Trash pump' was trashed from being driven by diesel fuel all that time. Old school diesels are freaking tough old nuts.
 
XRCD011 said:
And that is it, I was involved with the ex-East German T72 tanks that came to Canada in the mid 1990s and they came over to Canada with home heating fuel in the tanks (or something very close to it). The tank (T72) had a very capable hand held fuel pump with a crazy long power cable. The theory was the tanks (T72) could "live off the land" for fuel either refueling from civilian gas stations or taking heating fuel from German houses was they made the race across Western Europe for the English Channel.
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back in the day home heating oil was basically kerosene usually a lower grade but now that kerosene is so expensive home heating oil is the same as dyed diesel. I always figured the Russians siphoned up the oil tanks from farms/houses also taking fuel from the German depots when they could during the big push back into Germany.
 
tokguy said:
I recall a Roughneck hooking up lines wrong; a bank of compounded 6-71's drilled for 4 hours sucking on Hydraul 56, I'd imagine that 'Trash pump' was trashed from being driven by diesel fuel all that time. Old school diesels are freaking tough old nuts.
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can't beat a old school Detroit my buddy's dad has one in a glider kit international I rebuilt the fuel pump on the tailgate of his pickup in the middle of the gavel parking lot my buddy did feed it a good amount of ether though about 3 cans before I figured out it wasn't getting fuel :rolleyes:
 
Got an injector that's not working? Whip out the tool set and pull the injector... it's about as difficult as a spark plug. A little dressing up with Emery cloth and see if it barks. Stupid simple motor design.
 
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