German WW 2 rifle information

I appreciate you think the likelihood is high but it is still unclear to me why everyone is fixated on whether it is a vet bring back. I know where it came from and have the provenance, but I have nothing to prove and it's not for sale. This post was originally intended not to validate origin but to gather information on the specific model, which was pictured, maybe ascertain value for insurance and to share info with future generations. Along with service record, medals, uniform, diary, photo album and numerous other mementos.

I apologize if the comment giving background on where the rifle was acquired was not necessary, considered impossible by a few, made a few brains explode along the way and sparked a crusade to stamp out posts sharing personal family military history as "fabrication".

I used to think some vets might be reluctant to share their tour experience because of the gruesome horror of combat. Maybe they just got tired of some people yapping and thinking they knew more about it then they did.
 
cigarman said:
I appreciate you think the likelihood is high but it is still unclear to me why everyone is fixated on whether it is a vet bring back. I know where it came from and have the provenance, but I have nothing to prove and it's not for sale.
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I am not disputing your family’s provenance with respect to this rifle. If anything, I was just trying to get people off your back.

Had the rifle not been sporterized it would be worth at least $2500 (provided it was matching). In its current configuration, I’d estimate it to be worth somewhere in the $500 range. If you restored it by acquiring a new stock and bands it would be worth closer to $1000 but it’ll probably cost $400-500 for a nice early stock set (and it won’t be easy to find).
 
student of history said:
I am not disputing your family’s provenance with respect to this rifle. If anything, I was just trying to get people off your back.

Had the rifle not been sporterized it would be worth at least $2500 (provided it was matching). In its current configuration, I’d estimate it to be worth somewhere in the $500 range. If you restored it by acquiring a new stock and bands it would be worth closer to $1000 but it’ll probably cost $400-500 for a nice early stock set (and it won’t be easy to find).
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Sorry student of - any somewhat negative inferences were directed at just a few past posters - not you, so please don't think that was the intent. And thank you for the educated estimates on value.
The rifle won't be sold and I think we all (his family) agree the rifle should be left as it is - he used it for hunting and any modifications were done by him and are now part of the history. (I think StrelokM38 got it right in his post when he said that was not uncommon.)
 
Wow!!!!!!!!!!! ,,,,, CGN thread trainwreck at it's best!

That was painful to read and I have been a hard core Milsurp collector for over 47 years.

It seems that no one on either side of the thread can make a statement without being pounced on.

Some of you (no fingers pointed in any direction) need to sit back (maybe sleep on it) and re-read your posts before hitting the REPLY button.

I have news for you,,,,,,,,,, WE are supposed to be all on the same side!

We are famous here for eating are own!

cigar_man (The Original)
 
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I have the same rifle . It has what looks like a 4 blade propeller stamp on the receiver. I couldn't find anything on the internet about it. Having trouble posting a picture though.
It was a sporter. I few years ago I bought a stock set when they were cheap. Covered in cosmoline. Just started it install it now. I bought a bayonet at a gun show and gave me a bit of incentive to unsportize it.
 
cigarman said:
Sorry student of - any somewhat negative inferences were directed at just a few past posters - not you, so please don't think that was the intent. And thank you for the educated estimates on value.
The rifle won't be sold and I think we all (his family) agree the rifle should be left as it is - he used it for hunting and any modifications were done by him and are now part of the history. (I think StrelokM38 got it right in his post when he said that was not uncommon.)
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I have to agree. Once sportered, it can never be a matching gun again, and if my grandpa or dad did it, I would leave it as such. Why get rid of your dads history by erasing his actions.

Canadians brought back lots of stuff. Metric shot tons of pistols and other small items. Some rifles.

I agree with SoH as well, the vast majority of stuff I believe to be Canadian vet being backs are early. Even pistols, we have lots of early and mid war stuff but as soon as you get to the later war phosphate and oddball stuff you don’t see it here. Same for rifles.
The latest rifles I’ve found here that I believe to be Canadian vet bring back is a byf42. I also have a 41. Have seen others but the latest is 42.
 
Personally I think you're better off just keeping it as a family heirloom and passing down in the family to the next generation, as a piece of family history more than anything.

From a collector's point of view, I can see why some feel the sporterizing was "unfortunate". No one has mentioned that the bolt disassembly disk and sling slot were wood filled, making it harder to work with as a collectible.
 
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