Get Tough, Dammit!!!! (...addressing firearm weight issues) Youtube review

Most people would benefit loosing some pounds off themselves then worrying about a heavy rifle that breaks the magical 8lbs goal...

I get annoyed when people look down on me or think I am an idiot when I hunt and walk the bush with a full sized, scoped M14...well I can carry it without issues and its a great gun. Why would I NOT carry it? These are always the guys they are tipping past the 275lbs mark tho so maybe they are a little upset lol.
 
FWIW, I like a nice light handy carbine for CQB and 3 gun because I can arc the rifle slightly faster which means better scores. It's not a weight issue so much as a speed issue.

For range fun, heavy is no big thing.
 
KevinB said:
Admittedly as soon as I see someone with a buttstock mag puch I tend to dismiss them as a clown
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I loved my butt stock mag pouch... It helped balance out the gun with all the #### they have you putt on the front. When i went to kaf i disnt have a mag rattling around in my pocket. outside tge wire in our platoon house i had 60 rounds on the gun if i needed to fight before i could get to my kit.

As for 12 lb rifles... WTF... Thats almost the weight on a lmg!
 
KevinB said:
Admittedly as soon as I see someone with a buttstock mag puch I tend to dismiss them as a clown anyway...
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Personally I don't like any extra mags on my rifle. This includes those redimag devices. I would rather add half a second to my reload than add a pound to my rifle.

BUT when you have to have a mag and weapon with you at all times but you're not wearing your rig (dressed in flip flops and board shorts), the butt stock mag pouch becomes useful.
 
angryeyebrows said:
Personally I don't like any extra mags on my rifle. This includes those redimag devices. I would rather add half a second to my reload than add a pound to my rifle.

BUT when you have to have a mag and weapon with you at all times but you're not wearing your rig (dressed in flip flops and board shorts), the butt stock mag pouch becomes useful.
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LordEvilPepper said:
I loved my butt stock mag pouch... It helped balance out the gun with all the s**t they have you putt on the front. When i went to kaf i disnt have a mag rattling around in my pocket. outside tge wire in our platoon house i had 60 rounds on the gun if i needed to fight before i could get to my kit.

As for 12 lb rifles... WTF... Thats almost the weight on a lmg!
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Well when you add on Lights/lasers, bi-pod depending on the configuration or mission it can get up there in weight.

As for the redi-mag I find it very use full considering the first mag change in a gun fight is usually the most critical, but i would run the redi-mag in a lighter system and of course depending on the mission.

Considering how many standard M4 are out there i would have thought more people would have bought the redi-mag for there gun, but i think this falls into the whole "Man Up Thing" that we are seeing a decline in personal fitness levels.
 
I think the discussion is not necessarily the validity in shaving off ounces for people in the the field.. more the debate that it makes you faster on the couch.. or at the range. If you can save weight outside the wire, hey why not do it. But is your military (or any other) making decisions on what equipment you will use based on it's total weight? Or is it the effectiveness of the item? People don't hump TOW systems into the hills because of their mass.. they do it because they kick arse when they get there.

Not often I see people in full battle dress, armor and a sections worth of support ammo walking the line at the local range. Although, I'd hardly be surprised if it were to happen. I'm sure it happens more than we'd like to know on the couch though.. ;)

I think the video makes light of the fact that most of the people hailing the need to save weight, are not the people who would benefit from the weight savings, and are making decisions based more often than not on that one aspect alone... and making recommendations to others that will neither see the benefit. When in fact these people would benefit far more by driving past the McDonalds and picking up a weight when they get home in stead.
 
North Eastern Arms said:
I think the discussion is not necessarily the validity in shaving off ounces for people in the the field.. more the debate that it makes you faster on the couch.. or at the range. If you can save weight outside the wire, hey why not do it. But is your military (or any other) making decisions on what equipment you will use based on it's total weight? Or is it the effectiveness of the item? People don't hump TOW systems into the hills because of their mass.. they do it because they kick arse when they get there.

Not often I see people in full battle dress, armor and a sections worth of support ammo walking the line at the local range. Although, I'd hardly be surprised if it were to happen. I'm sure it happens more than we'd like to know on the couch though.. ;)

I think the video makes light of the fact that most of the people hailing the need to save weight, are not the people who would benefit from the weight savings, and are making decisions based more often than not on that one aspect alone... and making recommendations to others that will neither see the benefit. When in fact these people would benefit far more by driving past the McDonalds and picking up a weight when they get home in stead.
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:agree:
 
angryeyebrows said:
Personally I don't like any extra mags on my rifle. This includes those redimag devices. I would rather add half a second to my reload than add a pound to my rifle.

BUT when you have to have a mag and weapon with you at all times but you're not wearing your rig (dressed in flip flops and board shorts), the butt stock mag pouch becomes useful.
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IMHO
lugging around a 12 pound rifle with optics is one thing.
lugging around a 7.5 pound rifle with 5.5 pounds of sh*t that can do the same thing on your person is another.

Mind you, I'm not big army/active in anyway, I just know that five pounds on my person feels a lot less than 5 pounds on my rifle.
 
I like my guns stock with only an optic as the extra weight. I don't really see much point in carrying extra junk around on your gun that doesn't serve substantial puropse. That said, the best of both worlds is a light gun and beefy arms.
 
Farmboy said:
Depends on the application you are using the rifle for.
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Exactly. I've tried out a lot of the "gadgets", and honestly a lot of them are just that. Once the novelty wears off I find they tend not to get utilized as much or just end up being in the way. Aside from optics and BUIS, I'm pretty running most of my stuff stock or heavily stripped down (and with minimal "enhancements"). There's a big difference between upgrading a trigger or charging handle and adding a forward grip, light or laser (which aren't necessarily needed).

To each their own; while I'll be the first to admit I could certainly be in better shape, carrying around a ridiculously heavy "tacticool" rifle just to "man up" seems pointless. Think I'll focus on the former first...
 
Until you have handled and lugged around a Mauser Kar98k, M1917 Enfield or Hakim, you have no business complaining about the weight.
 
In a combat, I would rather use my strength to carry a better weapon and more ammo, than any other stuff, even food and water.
 
If you can save weight without it impeding the use of your rifle then why not lose some weight?

Why not use a quality light weight rail system in place of a heavier one? Why not use an aimpoint t1 instead of a heavier optic? Why not have a lightweight profile barrel instead of an hbar?
 
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