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so I thought all I need is to do my course and then fill out the forms for my PAL

and then I heard about Anastasia's law

Restrict ownership of semi-automatic weapons to gun club members.


so that would mean I cant just buy a CZ858 without being a gun club member ?

Require people to apply for gun permits in person at a police station and pass an aptitude test

So would I have to go to a police station ? I thought I had to apply by mail?
 
1000101 said:
so I thought all I need is to do my course and then fill out the forms for my PAL

and then I heard about Anastasia's law

Restrict ownership of semi-automatic weapons to gun club members.


so that would mean I cant just buy a CZ858 without being a gun club member ?

Require people to apply for gun permits in person at a police station and pass an aptitude test

So would I have to go to a police station ? I thought I had to apply by mail?
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if you live in quebec, and you want to own a restricted firearm, your pal will do you no good. you need to get a Rpal, which is a course on its own about restricted firearms, for new pal applicants who also want to purchase restricteds; Both courses are needed. Once you have done your courses and have your certificates , you can then submit an application form to the government, after you have joined a club, and after you have passed the law 9 course (which is to get you to shoot an actual firearm, Instructors usually rent yu their own handguns)

the SQ demands that you submit it thru your hometown's police station, who will undoubtibly scan the mofo out of it to identify you as a potential hangun owner (that is the intent of the process) , provided that they know about the process... usually, if they havent encountered this process once, they will be clueless on what to do , or revert you back to the closest SQ station ** do not listen to them** have them call the sq, who will explain to them what to do

though you are responsible for putting stamps on the envelope, they will mail your application for you and give you a receipt that they have the form on hand.

a lot of b.s. red tape, but its something you will have to endure if you love the sport enough. Good Luck.

dont be discouraged; we all had to go thru this, and all came out eventually and we were able to finally practice the sport legally... even with all the hassle; its worth it.
 
sorry I didn't explain it properly , this is for my non restricted pal

so in Quebec its just pass the course, fill out the form and get my pal

then I would be able to buy a semi auto non restricted CZ 858 ?

I wont have to join a gun club?
 
That's correct Anastasia law is only for restricted firearms. If you only have a non restricted pal no need to pass the Anastasia's law.
 
The CZ858 isn't restricted, if you have a PAL, buy and enjoy. As I've said before, if you join a club in Ontario. Anastasia law doesn't apply. It's the Quebec clubs that you take the 'course' for. Never heard of having to apply at the local cop shop and taking a test. What, the SQ are shrinks now too? I'll bet half of them would have to turn in their pistols if they took it.
 
ruddricky said:
That's correct Anastasia law is only for restricted firearms. If you only have a non restricted pal no need to pass the Anastasia's law.
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thats innacurate. People are confused about Law 9.

Law 9 applies to ANYONE who wants to join a club.
It also prohibits ALL types of firearms in public transit and in schools, among other things.

So, if you want to buy a non-restricted firearm and keep it in your closet or only shoot it on crown land or your country house, you won't have to take the law 9 class. (even though that law still prohibits you from the public transit transportation etc)

But, the second you want to join a club, you'll be required to pass the law 9 class, no matter if you shoot restricteds or not.

People seem to think that it only applies to restricted firearms because of the mandatory club membership to own such guns.

I wish people actually read the law instead...
h ttp://www.clubtirbeauport.com/docs/Texte_loi9.pdf
 
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lyman54 said:
The CZ858 isn't restricted, if you have a PAL, buy and enjoy. As I've said before, if you join a club in Ontario. Anastasia law doesn't apply. It's the Quebec clubs that you take the 'course' for. Never heard of having to apply at the local cop shop and taking a test. What, the SQ are shrinks now too? I'll bet half of them would have to turn in their pistols if they took it.
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The thing about the police station thing goes as follows :

the only way you can send your application in Quebec is by bringing it to your local police station So that your identity can be verified by the constable there.

You have to show up with 2 pieces of photo ID and the form from the CFO.
They then put your application with the rest of their mail to be sent out.

It is simply a deterring measure. Useless perhaps, but in their books, someone who's bats**t crazy and wants guns will stay away knowing he has to be identified by a cop first.
 
sewktbk said:
But, the second you want to join a club, you'll be required to pass the law 9 class, no matter if you shoot restricteds or not.
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Well I joined a club last year and I didn't pass the Law 9 class or test. But I don't shoot restricteds...

And yes, you can buy a CZ858 without a club membership.
 
plaine in simple, if you are a resident of Quebec and your sick and tiried of all the law and b..s.. that the provincial goverment has and will impose on you, why not join the CSSA and signed the peition to get them recognize in Quebec so we can start to have an org that represente us.
 
Don't let the Going to the police station thing bother you, The local cops don't give a Sh!t. In fact when my wife walked in to the local station here on the south shore of Montreal. The look on the cops face was priceless.

Cop, oui / hello
my wife, yes I would like to drop off my RPAL to be completed and mailed (she is 5' and a little over 100lbs)
cops face was price less

P.S speak to the cops in English they have so much trouble speaking englsih and reading for forms they take it and send it just so they don't have to deal with you
 
«46.42. Pour être membre d’un club de tir, le requérant doit se soumettre
à un test d’aptitude pour la pratique sécuritaire du tir à la cible avec des armes
à feu à autorisation restreinte ou des armes à feu prohibées et transmettre à
l’exploitant une attestation de sa réussite [...]
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The way it's written it seem to indicate the lawmakers were not aware that people without the R on their PAL can also be members at gun clubs.
Or maybe sentence structure was really not their strength.
 
Sardaukar said:
Well I joined a club last year and I didn't pass the Law 9 class or test. But I don't shoot restricteds...

And yes, you can buy a CZ858 without a club membership.
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I stand corrected then.
That just goes to show how confusing it is i guess :rolleyes:

So yeah...OP, read the law. Twice!
 
I don't want to start a fighting match. But please show me in which paragraph does it state that you must pass law 9 if you want to join a gun club with only non-restricted firearms. When you do your law 9 course you must 20 rounds from a restricted firearm. If this law was also for non-restricted wouldn't you have to shoot 20 rounds from a non-restricted?
 
ruddricky said:
I don't want to start a fighting match. But please show me in which paragraph does it state that you must pass law 9 if you want to join a gun club with only non-restricted firearms. When you do your law 9 course you must 20 rounds from a restricted firearm. If this law was also for non-restricted wouldn't you have to shoot 20 rounds from a non-restricted?
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See my post just above yours. ;)

One thing in law 9 I know applies to ALL firearm owners is the fact that you can't transport or be in possession of firearms in public transit, schools, etc.

Maybe thats why I got confused. Some parts of the law apply to all classes of firearms, some don't...
 
I guess i did read the law correctly....btw thank you to lucky72 and sewktbk for helping quebec firearms owner.....and yes i've signed the petition a long time ago.
 
1000101 said:
sorry I didn't explain it properly , this is for my non restricted pal

so in Quebec its just pass the course, fill out the form and get my pal

then I would be able to buy a semi auto non restricted CZ 858 ?

I wont have to join a gun club?
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Yes, simply pass the course, fill the form send the result of the course with your application. Wait for a short while, buy your CZ858 and go shoot... It as simple as that...

You don't need to go the to police station or joint a club, all that is for a RPAL....
 
I don't think I'll ever get my rpal. I do not want to go to the police station and have my name on some list . So if I pulled over for a stop sign ,they might wanna search my car because they know I have guns

I want to get my pal and wait till the registry is dead before buying any guns.
 
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