getting into long range please help

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hello, looking to get into long range shooting i been shooting a savage hunter xp in .223 have nothing bad to say about it..

was wondering if someone could tell me a good rifle been really looking at rem 700 tac or if someone can suggest me another rifle preferably .308 heavy barrel
 
your price range with optics?

BR shooting? just outdoor plinking LR? heavy or light?

also do you reload or will be shooting factory ammo?
 
Rem 700 SPS Tac in a MacMillan A5 stock with a Nightforce 20 MOA rail should be a good foundation. Jewel trigger. Nightforce scope with with NPR1 or NPR2 reticle. I like anti cant levels. I shot great with this setup. There are exponential combinations.
 
just out door plink, factory ammo for now will consider reloading in the near future forsure price will vary it will be a slow build to get what i want. just right now a base to build on
 
Sounds reasonable to me, except I'd go with more of a mid range scope. Maybe vortex or Leupold (500$-900$). Both are great from what I've read, I'm personally looking for a vortex viper 6.5-20x50 and cheapest I've found is 509$ and 519$. The equivalent in Leupold is about 800$ or 900$ can't remember. Those Remington's really do have infinite possibilities.
 
dwight_Shrute said:
Sounds reasonable to me, except I'd go with more of a mid range scope. Maybe vortex or Leupold (500$-900$). Both are great from what I've read, I'm personally looking for a vortex viper 6.5-20x50 and cheapest I've found is 509$ and 519$. The equivalent in Leupold is about 800$ or 900$ can't remember. Those Remington's really do have infinite possibilities.
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The Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 is the best scope for the money in my opinion. It comes with some pretty crisp glass coupled with a side parallax adjustment and large dials.
 
As you say, you are enjoying your Savage rifle so why not just crank up the elevation and shoot LR?

The furthest we have pushed a factory 223 Savage was 1 mile.... far enough?

75gr amax or Berger VLD, varget, CCI 450, Win brass. Just off the lands, work up in 0.1gr (get a good scale) till you dial in your accuracy node. Enjoy yourself.

See my website for plenty of articles on rifle setup, optics and ammo tuning.

Until you need to compete, the factory savage will put huge smiles on your face. Then you spin on a quality match barrel, tweak a few things and have at it.

There is little to change unless the stock doesn't fit you. Bed it properly, mount a quality optic, enjoy...

Jerry
 
yup talk to jerry about your build. better to talk to a experienced LR shooter and a dealer.
Has gotten few items from him and been happy since.

But if you want to go slow, just slowly build from your savage Action. Tons of aftermarket stock, triggers, barrels, or whatever you can think of.
Also long range does not have to be expensive.. Stock Savage Axis with some work will shoot jsut fine for plinking. ( free Floating, Glass Bedding)
 
Iroc said:
The Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 is the best scope for the money in my opinion. It comes with some pretty crisp glass coupled with a side parallax adjustment and large dials.
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Plus a fabulous warranty and customer service from what I've read. Which is why I have chosen the Vortex for my build. ;)
 
thanks for the commenteverone mystic i will forsure check out the website, now the other question is your saying to build up my previous savage would it be worth sticking with a .223 or should a .308 build be more efficient you got me guessing now.
 
luck19 said:
thanks for the commenteverone mystic i will forsure check out the website, now the other question is your saying to build up my previous savage would it be worth sticking with a .223 or should a .308 build be more efficient you got me guessing now.
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Stick with the .223 Rem. But, if you are awesome with your .223 Rem, then I would look into a .308 heavy barrel.
.308 costs a little more to shoot. It is twice as powerful. It's EFFECTIVE range is almost identical if we are going to get into it.
 
luck19 said:
thanks for the commenteverone mystic i will forsure check out the website, now the other question is your saying to build up my previous savage would it be worth sticking with a .223 or should a .308 build be more efficient you got me guessing now.
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First I would suggest you get loading as well as you can. That savage will likely keep you very busy for a few thousand rds of learning. When you are ready to change, again, stay with the 223 if you are LR plinking. An 8 twist match barrel and 80gr Amax/Bergers will get out to 1500yds without much fuss.

If you decide you want to compete, then build to suit the game at hand.

Chambering choice is neither here nor there. There are so many great bullets, powders and loading info that just about anything can be made to work. Entirely up to you and what you want to play with next. Everything larger then the 223 will cost more per bang.

Maybe you want to play with a 6BR or 7mm something or other next. Wildcat some 6.5 or 270 whizz bang set up.

First thing is to learn HOW to shoot LR and that will take lots of lead down range. After that, whatever puts a smile on your face.

Jerry
 
Remington 700 SPS Varmint $639.99. Sightron S111 SS 6-24x50 Long Range Dot, 1/4 MOA Reticle comes with sunshade, 30mm tube $894.00.
 
Mystic Precision said:
First I would suggest you get loading as well as you can. That savage will likely keep you very busy for a few thousand rds of learning. When you are ready to change, again, stay with the 223 if you are LR plinking. An 8 twist match barrel and 80gr Amax/Bergers will get out to 1500yds without much fuss.

If you decide you want to compete, then build to suit the game at hand.

Chambering choice is neither here nor there. There are so many great bullets, powders and loading info that just about anything can be made to work. Entirely up to you and what you want to play with next. Everything larger then the 223 will cost more per bang.

Maybe you want to play with a 6BR or 7mm something or other next. Wildcat some 6.5 or 270 whizz bang set up.

First thing is to learn HOW to shoot LR and that will take lots of lead down range. After that, whatever puts a smile on your face.

Jerry
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Call Jerry for a .224 barrel to throw onto your Savage when you are ready.
 
You didnt mention whether or not you want to keep the Savage for hunting purposes. If you do, I would throw a decent LR scope on it, bed it and start reloading and use it to learn while you save for either a new rifle or tear down the Savage and build it up for LR. Many great rifles built on factory Savage and Rem 700 actions. Caliber is really your choice but with the new bullets coming out for .223 you really arent gaining anything on paper by switching calibers. Jerry can tell you all about that (and already has) One thing I will recommend is buy your scope once. It really is a get-what-you-pay-for market. Go cheap, get cheap, bang head on wall when whats happening down range does not correspond with your input. Sightron is a very good value in LR scopes, alot of people compare them to NF. I'm not a fan of Vortex due to their seemingly high rate of failures and issues with their tracking but their customer service is second to none so they wont leave you high and dry. Point is, do your research and ask yourself what you are going to want on your rifle when you do get serious. Good optics are expensive so getting what you need is important. Read through Tomochan's optics sticky to get a feel for price Vs. quality in LR optics.
 
just enjoy the rifle you have. but...Nobody ever regretted buying good optics. If you get more into it, well then take it further and upgrade the gun but until then the gun you have with good ammo will give you lots of fun at long range. You can spend an infinite amount of money on upgrading and the merchants that stand to profit from you doing just that are all too willing to sell you as much as you can be talked into. Remember... those guys trying to sell you Amway are friends and family too.
 
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