Getting Into Precision Rifles

[Adamg_55]

Hey guys, just wanted to say i love CGNz. I check the forum pretty must every day and have found a wealth of information using the search function. Anyways, i recently got my RPAL and i started to focus on pistols. Now that i have a couple of those i would like to get a rifle or two, or three, or as many as i can afford....

Anyways, i wanted to get a precision rifle, due to the fact that i like accuracy just as much as the next guy. I am currently a member of a range that has a 300yard rifle range. So the main purpose of the rifle will be paper punching. With that in mind i would also like the rifle to be capable of hunting with, or if the day ever came, strong enough to take out a zombie.

So, i have used the search function and am still lost as to where and what to start with. I like the Remington 700 R5 milspec, and the reviews how it is accurate right out of the box and has the same rifling as the M24 sniper rifles. So i was wondering if this is a good gun to start out with? Or what would be a good precision rifle to start out with. I will not be upgrading or adding parts to whatever i get for at least a couple months as i wish to aquire a large amount of guns. So basically i would like a quality rifle that is accurate and powerful. Dont care about ammo, i will buy whatever it needs and i will be learning the art of realoding very soon.

I have used the search function and still dont know what to get, so i am turning to the gurus on CGNz for advice as to which rifle to start out with.

Also, i have looked at the AR variant rifle, and i really like the way they look and the fact that they are semi- auto. So i was wondering if there are any AR variant rifle that are non-rescricted? I have been looking around and i like the DPMS LR308 that questar was offering, but i now see that they are sold out. So can anyone recommend a a rifle like this that would be accurate? also where i could obtain one?

Any information you guys can give a newbie to the precision rifle game is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Adam

 

[punkrockboy]

Also, i have looked at the AR variant rifle, and i really like the way they look and the fact that they are semi- auto. So i was wondering if there are any AR variant rifle that are non-rescricted? I have been looking around and i like the DPMS LR308 that questar was offering, but i now see that they are sold out. So can anyone recommend a a rifle like this that would be accurate? also where i could obtain one?

All ARs and AR variants are restricted. There are however, options.An AR180B is non-restricted, it can be made to look similar to an AR, I used to have one, that I made to look like an M4, it looked similar.There are other non-restricted "black rifle"options, such as the XCR, H&K SL8,Tavor, Type97, etc.... Look them up on the search function, Im sure you can find something non-restricted that you will like.
As far as the rem700, you cant go wrong with a 700. The sky is the limit for aftermarket upgrades as the money becomes available in your budget!!!

 

[Epoxy7]

The 5R milspec is an excellent all around rifle. It's also a good intro rifle into precision rifle shooting. It's a sniper rifle that doesn't look like one. It's a perfect balance right between the LTR and P model. Best of both worlds.

You can hunt with it although 243, 7mm,30-06, 300 Win mag and 338 seem to be the more preferred calibers for hunting.

With 168 grain Federal gold match mine shoots 5 round groups at 100 yards in about .4 moa. I haven't tried 175 yet. I've just set up the reloading stuff although I haven't reloaded yet. I'm only a medium level rifle shooter and the rifle shot very well for me.

Get good glass for this rifle. Also good rings and bases. I have a Zeiss Conquest 6.5-20x 50mm with the Rapid Z 1000 yard reticle. I really like it. If you can afford it I'd go with the Night force 5.5-22x and the R2 reticle. Fantastic scopes but very expensive. The other more affordable option is the Falcon Menace 4.5-18x 56mm IR. Although this budget scope is very good and will work I'd recommend putting something with a bit more magnification on this rifle. These rifles can make use of the best.

I consider the 5R milspec to be the best bang for the buck right now in 700 Remingtons.
You can get a 5R for about $1000 brand new.

I happen to own a DPMS LR-308. I also put a Zeiss Conquest 6.5-20x 50mm with 1000 yard Rapid Z reticle on this rifle. I really like mine. They are a ton of fun to shoot. Although they are restricted.

Mine wasn't shooting very well until I found the ammo it liked. It didn't like the usual stuff like Gold Federal 168 grain, it did however love the 167 grain Lapua ammo. . It can shoot this ammo sub .5 moa for 5 round groups at 100 yards. Finding this ammo however is another story since most stores don't seem to carry it.

Keep in mind that the stock DPMS trigger blows. I already knew this from reading all the reviews so I also ordered a RRA NM two stage trigger. I tested out the stock trigger before having the RRA NM put in. It was like night and day. So much nicer with the RRA NM trigger. This rifle is a lot of fun. It'll be staying in my collection along with the 5R .

Due to the cost and starting out. I'd get the 5R first. There are lots of them around right now and many people are opting for the no longer exported P models. This means you can pick one up at a reasonable price. $1000 for the 5R versus $1900 for the DPMS plus another $140 for the trigger. While the 5R is shootable right out of the box I'd recommend having the trigger weight lowered. 2-3 pounds should be good. The ones I have were 5 pounds when bought but the trigger was very clean and crisp. $40 and under 10 minutes at a good gunsmiths will take care of the trigger weight.

Good luck. Let us know what you decide and how it shoots for you.

 

[Obtunded]

My advice would be to get a bolt action rifle in either Remington or Savage. Don't get fooled into thinking more expensive is more accurate, the fact is one factory rifle shoots as well or as bad as the next. If you want something that is guaranteed accurate, buy a Cooper.

The attributes that make a rifle good for target shooting (Heavy barrel, single shot, heavy stock,light trigger, high power scope) make them poor choices for hunting (light rifle, heavy caliber, low power scope, repeater action) and vice versa, therefore, find one that fits you. Bear in mind that mass produced rifles are like mass-produced cars in that the manufacturers use window dressing and catch phrases to make you think you are getting something more substantial than you really are.

I might suggest you go out to one of the tactical or the F-Class matches at your local range and speak with the guys out there. Look at what they are using and I'm sure they will bend over backwards to show you their rifles. I'm sure this exercise alone will do more to help you decide which way to go than listening to a bunch of internet BS'ers like us

 

[ron hilchey]

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I might suggest you go out to one of the tactical or the F-Class matches at your local range and speak with the guys out there. Look at what they are using and I'm sure they will bend over backwards to show you their rifles. I'm sure this exercise alone will do more to help you decide which way to go than listening to a bunch of internet BS'ers like us [/QUOTE]

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Ron.

 

[50calshooter]

I'll tell you what I wish somebody told me a before I got started.... Get whatever you like as long as it is the Remington 700 Platform... So many options, so many future upgrades...... If I would have started out that way I would have saved a ton of money. My personal recommendation for paper killin / occasional hunting would be a .308 SPS Varmit....

 

[MagnumPeanut]

I'll tell you what I wish somebody told me a before I got started.... Get whatever you like as long as it is the Remington 700 Platform... So many options, so many future upgrades...... If I would have started out that way I would have saved a ton of money. My personal recommendation for paper killin / occasional hunting would be a .308 SPS Varmit....

I would say the same, but I would also look at the Savage 110 Long Action or 10 Short Action as good starting guns as well. Again, you can upgrade them slowly as you want, and there are tons of upgrade options.

 

[Tomochan]

The advice re the Rem 700 and, in particular, the R5 variant is all good ( I have a R5 and lreally like it ) but may I suggest that, since you are starting out, you consider a .223. The smaller caliber ( ie reduced recoil ) will allow for more productive range time and will be a bit cheaper to feed. I have a Savage 10FP and 12BVSS that both fit the bill for accuracy as 'starter' .223 precision rigs. Of course, you must make up your own mind and the advice to attend a match and see what people are using etc is also excellent advice.