Getting trigger group out?

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Ok so finally having time to give the new M14 a disassembly to clean all the cosmo out of her and right off the bat I am stuck.
I have the trigger guard released but can't get the trigger group to just lift out like the manual says. I'm pulling like heck but can't see anything moving except I can see the receiver slighting wanting to seperate from the barrel. I don't want to bend or break anything.
Good news is I picked up two SA battle packs today. Maybe if I get this thing cleaned I can go play tomorrow if it ever stops raining.
Thanks
 
Sometimes they can be pretty sticky.

With the trigger guard released, give the heel of the receiver a sharp rap with a rubber mallet to loosen things up a bit.

Now, with the rifle laying upside down on your lap and the trigger guard pulled all the way up so the trigger itself is fully exposed, pull the assembly straight out. Do not pull it out on an angle.

Once the trigger assembly is out, turn the rifle upside down on your lap. Grasp the receiver with your left hand and give the buttstock a smack with your right hand. The barrel assembly should pop loose from the stock.

The rifle is now broken down into the 3 main groups.

Just follow the manual for field stripping and cleaning.

Hope this helps
 
Try putting a screwdriver through the hole in the safety and using the screwdriver shaft as a handle so you can get more oomph into the pull.

Mine's really tight like this as well.
 
I forgot to mention. The hammer must be cocked and the safety on. You shouldn't have to use extra leverage at any time.
 
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Thanks guys.
The hammer was cocked and the safety was on. I gave the back of the reciever a couple of hits with the rubber mallet and then pulled, had to pull really hard, like gun on floor with both feet holding it down and pulled straight toward myself with both hands. And out it came. Only problem was it ripped off the wood stock from both sides of the trigger group each about and 1.5". I guess that just makes it easier on getting an USGI stock
Thanks
 
:eek:

Almost seems like it was glued in there! I've never heard of that before especially since the trigger group locks into the receiver. Why it would tear the stock apart is beyond me. **The following is not correct!The other thing is that the trigger group should arc out towards the muzzle instead of coming straight out.End of incorrect statement** How far did the trigger guard pivot (in degrees) when you unlatched it?
 
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Ripstop said:
:eek:

The other thing is that the trigger group should arc out towards the muzzle instead of coming straight out.
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I respectfully disagree. The trigger group is suppose to pull straight out not ark toward the muzzle.

I know, because I trained with them 40 years ago and have owned one ever since. Also I refer to you field manual FM 23-8, Dept of the Army, May 1965, pages 7 and 8. The illustration on page 8 clearly shows that arking toward the muzzle is the wrong method.

You have to make sure the trigger guard itself is fully forward toward the muzzle then pull straight out.

I do agree that stripping wood off when removing the trigger assembly is downright ####ing bizzare. I have never seen anything like that in 40 years. Something is wrong. Maybe a Chinese practical joke:p

In any event, if you are a newb to the M14, go to http://www.biggerhammer.net and download everything pertaining to the M14 including the USMC marksmanship manual.
 
x2 what turf said... though i do not share his vast hands on experience.

on the note of stuck trigger groups. I've met a few including my latest purchase that the action had to be removed before i good get the trigger group out of the stock.
Unlatched as normal..... but the trigger group would not budge.... inserted a flathead behind the receiver and pried it up and loose from the stock, then had to reallt tug and ruined the chu wood getting the trigger group out.... though... not to the extent of what's described above
 
Turf said:
I respectfully disagree. The trigger group is suppose to pull straight out not ark toward the muzzle.
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My bad!!!

I had to go fish one out of the safe and you are 200% correct. That will teach me from going off of memory. It has been awhile since I last did it. I will go back and amend my post.

Thank you very much for your correction.
 
45ACPKING it was pretty much the same thing. It was unlatched fully and all the way forward but just didn't want to budge.
Anyway, got the trigger assembly out and everything aprart, everything else was really easy. Cleaned up everything with bore solevent and brake cleaner then wiped down with gun oil (except gas piston etc.). Everything went back together nicely including trigger group. Used a little WonderLube 1000 (breech plug lube for my muzzle gun) on the sides of the trigger latches the lock in.
Glued the splintered pieces of wood back on the stock with wood glue for now. At least until I get a USGI stock. I'll post a picture of the stock missing the two pieces if I can figure out how.
 
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