Gew 88's anyone?

Hey guys,

Sorry I wasn't able to post earlier, my work got busy. However, here we are, a rare lady that certainly has a story to tell.

Here is my Steyr Gew 88, made in 1889, on contract for Germany. The serial number has no suffix letter so she was was probably produced in the first month of production for these rifles. She has matching numbers, with the exception being the rear sight ladder and Czech replacement bolt. I have to say that the action is smooth as glass, the manufacture quality, even after all her use, is still quite evident. As you can see, she has the early "G. Mod 88" roll stamp that was used for only a month or two before they switched to "Gew. 88".

I did acquire the original brass muzzle cover and 1871.84 bayonet separately but both fit the rifle quite nicely. For reference, the unit marking on the bayonet blade is likely the 53rd "5th Westphalian" Infantry, ersatz regiment, 2nd company, weapon number 177. The scabbard has a cancelled out unit marking that I haven't identified yet and a reassigned marking that I have yet to completely translate. The blade is dated 1887 and was made by Alex Coppel, in Solingen.

The unit markings are quite interesting as you can see the first unit she was assigned to (on the lower band) was cancelled out and assigned to another unit (my guess would be during the 1905 approved conversion to stripper clip guides and magazine modifications). The first unit, I believe, was the 84th Schleswig Infantry "Von Manstein", 16th company, stationed in Schleswig and Hadersleben, and attached to the IX Army Corps.

Her second unit, and probably her last unit was likely the 19th 2nd Posen Infantry regiment "von Courbiere", 8th company, weapon number 84. This unit was stationed in Gorlitz and Lauban and attached to the V Army Corps. This unit was involved in the Schlieffen plan in 1914 and it is impossible to say if this Gew 88 was actively apart of the progression or in reserve inventory and quickly issued out.

Either way, she found her way to the Ottoman empire as war aid sometime during 1915 and 1916 and was used by the Empire, and later the Republic of Turkey. Perhaps she fired some shots at some Greek soldiers during the emergency in the 1920s, perhaps not. The fact being she was been all over and managed to stay together and not be parted out, is to me, incredible.

I do hope you guys enjoy the images and I would be happy to share some more images of my other Gew 88s if you are interested.

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1888/05. No Turkish markings. 1889 AMBERG

Just a heads up. Reassembling the extractor into the bolt, requires a third hand.

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That is a lovely Amberg, especially an early production one at that. The unit marking is a Jager battalion, either the "Royal Prussian Jagerbattalion "Count York von Wartenburg No. 1" or the Royal Bavarian 1st Jagerbattalion. Since there is no Bavarian "B" in the unit marking, I am leaning towards the Prussian Jagers but that is my best guess.
 
That is a lovely Amberg, especially an early production one at that. The unit marking is a Jager battalion, either the "Royal Prussian Jagerbattalion "Count York von Wartenburg No. 1" or the Royal Bavarian 1st Jagerbattalion. Since there is no Bavarian "B" in the unit marking, I am leaning towards the Prussian Jagers but that is my best guess.
Thank you kindly for the identification. The history of these tools is always fascinating. First 71/84 muzzle cap I've seen and in excellent condition. By fluke, I found a pitted yet serviceable M71 cap. It is appropriately applied.
 
I miss mine. I traded it for a very nice Steyr-Mannlicher m95 I wanted.

Here's an article I wrote some years back. I tried saving it as a jpg and results weren't the best.

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Thank you kindly for the identification. The history of these tools is always fascinating. First 71/84 muzzle cap I've seen and in excellent condition. By fluke, I found a pitted yet serviceable M71 cap. It is appropriately applied.
I definitely want to see pictures of that M71 muzzle cap.

Nabs..if you have more pics of other 88's please post away!

Alright, I'll dig the old girls out of the safe on my next days off and dust them off for a photo shoot :D.

I miss mine. I traded it for a very nice Steyr-Mannlicher m95 I wanted.

Here's an article I wrote some years back. I tried saving it as a jpg and results weren't the best.

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Josh, that was a very good read and introduction to the Gew 88 for anyone who is not familiar with this interesting firearm. I have Paul Scarlatta's book on the Commission rifle along with Dieter Storz's book on the Gew 88 and Kar 88/91 (a really great source of detailed information for those interested). I had thought about writing my own collector book based on what I have noticed with the different variations of the Gew 88s you see out there in the wild and that idea, although it did not come to fruition years ago, it came back to my mind recently given the scarcity of Scarlatta's book nowadays, and the cost of acquiring Storz's very detailed book that not every collector may wish to have on their shelf.
 
The 88/05/35s are the ones rebarreled to a conventional barrel and stock arrangement. Likely the best variant to actually shoot as they have .323 barrels.
Yes, no barrel jacket, nice stocks, the ones I've handled have had smooth actions.
 
The actions on all gew88’s in decent shape all feel the same and have that buttery smooth mannlicker bolt action feel.

The Turks’ changes to the gun did not affect the actions or magazine, they are basically restocked 88/05’s with wooden handguards instead of a barrel jacket. Not very WW1, but otherwise a decent milsurp.

I remember when Springfield Sporters had thousands of the 35’s and guys were saying they were unsafe or would not handle modern 8mm. I never actually heard of one failing though. Same for the Chinese hanyang copy of it.

At one time, P&S brought a bunch of them In from SS, so they are around in Canada.
 
Ok gents, I have some pictures you for to enjoy. There will be multiple posts as CGN only allows a certain number of image uploads per post but I sized them accordingly so it should be easier to view.

Since we were last discussing the 1935 conversion of the Gew 88s by the Turkish Republic, I'll share my example that has a very nice Circassian walnut stock. The conversion work was quite well done and the action is very smooth. The receiver barely has the previous markings that show it started life as a Danzig. Other than two stamps on the wood (one being a letter "M" forward of the trigger guard, and a "star" on the grip, there are no other markings on the wood. The conversion date is 1940 at Ankara.
 

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Next up is a two part post of a Gew 88, an 1890 Spandau, that was most likely sold out of service and went to South America at some point. She has some interesting features that are not commonly seen and a matching unit marking. We can also see the differences from the original pattern shown compared to my Gew 88.05 Steyr conversion and the intricate work that was involved to convert these from enbloc clip to stripper clip. The unit marking is my best guess of one of two possibilities: 4th Food Guards, assigned to the Berlin Guards Corps, or the 4th (3rd East Prussian) Grenadiers "King Frederick the Great", assigned to Rastenburg, I Army Corps.

You will notice the earlier style bolt head on the left and the latter style bolt head on the right. Note how the extractor style also changed. The forward trigger guard screw is a very early screw that has an integral locking screw. I believe this came from an earlier Gew 88 or from a Kar 88 but it was on the rifle when I received her. Interestingly, the mini locking screw needs relief in the trigger guard in order for the screw to go flush so if I shoot this rifle, I will probably swap it out for safety.
 

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Post # 2 for the 1890 Spandau. Compared side by side with my 1889 Steyr Gew 88.05.
 

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Next up we have my restored Kar 88, made by V.C. Schilling in Suhl, in 1890. This project took a number of years and I was able to get a new stock made as the original was not included when I found her, only a roughly made stock but thankfully all of the original parts were present. The original bolt, however, was missing. With the help of a CGNer, I was able to track down a replacement bolt body in the correct style and my extra bolt parts were able to make the bolt usable. It runs smooth and this carbine has a very nice trigger. Other than the ears being milled off the nose cap, she is complete again.

She is unit marked to the 17th (1st Grand Ducal Mecklenburgian) Dragoons, 5th Squadron, 3rd weapon. Assigned to Ludwigslust and attached to the IX Army Corps.
 

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Next we have a Gew 88 sporter (yes, I know, a sporter) but what is important is the receiver markings are clean and prominent and we see some rare updates. She also has a rare unit marking stamped in an uncommon location and one that is quite personal to me and my family history.

When we look at the receiver, we can see she is an 1890 Erfurt in the original pattern. She had a thicker barrel installed at some point (the " . " or punch mark), the rifling is of the deeper design and probably closer to .323 from the original pattern .321 (the " Z " marking), and had the throat opened up sometime after 1903 for the spitzer conversion. Lots of nice markings on this rifle.

The unit marking is stamped on the left side wall of the receiver which was generally done if the both barrel bands had been marked and cancelled out and the rifle was issued out atleast a third time. This marking relates to a Landwehr battalion, assigned to the Kattowitz district, 3rd company, weapon # 57. The Kattowitz area was where my family was during the 1890s and 1900s so this rifle was very "close to home" so to speak.

I also attached some pictures of an original sling. This one I keep off any rifles as the leather is used and I don't want to risk damaging it. Take note of the leather protective flap to protect the stock from the sling button.
 

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Alright, now we have some bayonets. An S 1871, S71.84, S84.98 1st pattern conversion of a 71.84 bayonet, and an German Ersatz bayonet.

The S1871 is unit marked to a Pioneer battalion but I haven't identified it yet. It is an 1875 made blade and still quite sharp to the touch.

The Ersatz bayonet is quite interesting. It is German unit marked to some ersatz regiment but, again, I haven't figured it out yet. What really caught my eye is that this particular bayonet went to the Ottoman empire as there is Fashi text present on one side of the blade and a letter 1930s serial number from the days of the Turkish Republic has also been applied. A very interesting bayonet with a lot of history.

You can also see the conversion work for the S1884/98 1st pattern bayonet that started life as an 1871/84 bayonet and was later converted to fit the Gew 98 and Kar 98.
 

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2nd post for the bayonets showing the bayonets mounted on my Steyr 1889 Gew 88.05.
 

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Last post for this upload and something a bit of fun and rare. An original dark blue German tunic from probably the 1880s or 1890s with original cap alongside my Gew 88.05 Steyr.

The tunic, probably from an NCO (Although there were no NCO buttons present on the neck collar), is marked to the 27th (2nd Magdeburg) Infantry "Prince Louis Ferdinand of Prussia" regiment, assigned to Halberstadt, and attached to the IV Army Corps.

I hope you guys enjoy the photos, I also have two Gew 71.84s that I can share and a Kar 71 (lightly sporterized but the markings are quite lovely), if you are guys are interested in that too.
 

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