Girsan MC R9

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Has anyone on the forum, had hands on with the Girsan MC R9. This is an updated version of Girsan Regard, with some desirable features, like better checkering, removal of finger groves and brigadier style slide, nice front serrations. I had an older generation Regard, and it was good value for money. I'm interested if anyone has experience or hands on comparison of them, or compared to a Beretta.

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A friend of mine ordered one in May from Tenda and once the transfer is complete he or I can share some first hand impressions. This pistol looks to have lots of potential.
 
looks like the slide has more mass at the frt of the barrel to keep the muzzle down a little more
maybe a "G" style decocker
looked at the description at tenda , doesn't relay say anything about the decocker , but says trigger is SA(typo? )


I like the finger grooves on my older regard
 
I'm sure that it's type F (as in safety de-cocker like the rest), and I'm also positive is DA/SA...
looks like the slide has more mass at the frt of the barrel to keep the muzzle down a little more
maybe a "G" style decocker
looked at the description at tenda , doesn't relay say anything about the decocker , but says trigger is SA(typo? )


I like the finger grooves on my older regard
 
I patiently await the arrival of my Girsan Regard MC R9. It's enroute to me so maybe in a week or so I'll have additional feedback. This will be my first Beretta 92-style pistol so I'm anxious to see how it works out. I've already purchased several replacement internal parts for it (parts made for the Beretta since the internals of the 92 and Regard are supposed to be the same). I'll be shooting lead rather than jacketed ammo as a requirement of the range where I shoot.
 
Awesome, patience is definitely a virtue, especially for restricted buyers/sellers in Ontario! Finally received another pistol purchased end of April.

All of my reading on Girsan seems to indicate they are a quality manufacturer and the only Beretta incompatibilities are barrel related, specifically locking lug. Very interested to know about other parts compatibility as well. I am lead to believe other internals should work; if anyone else has experience would be much appreciated!

Looking at various holster options and Solely Canadian seems to be highly recommended, I think I will reach out to them for a custom holster when I can measure the specific dimensions. What are you guys thinking of holster wise?

Patiently waiting as well. Have a lot of Beretta 92 mags for my CX4 storm that I can no longer shoot in my backyard, or the range, or at all!
 
Received my Girsan Regard MC R9 today. It came packaged in a nice plastic blow-moulded box along with a second mag, a cleaning brush and rod, a bottle of oil and a user manual as well as a cable lock. The mags are marked as being made by MecGar for Girsan and offer viewing ports to allow round count to be established by looking at the exterior of the mag.

Upon initial inspection it looked to me like machining quality in this pistol is excellent. In fact I found nothing that immediately jumped out at me as anything other than a quality finish.

To confirm, the pistol features a DA/SA trigger system, NOT Single Action as stated on Tenda's website - that clearly is an error as the DA/SA status is also confirmed in the user manual. The safety is a full decocker. From either half- or full #### hammer position, moving the safety downward to the "safe" position causes the hammer to fall against the hammer blocker and the trigger to be disconnected. DA activation only occurs if the safety is moved upward to the fire position.

A trip to the range ensued with about 80 rounds fired through the pistol, with 70 rounds of that ammo being Wolf lead, and a single five round mag of each of SynTech and XMetal were fired to verify functioning. The pistol experienced one failure to feed with the Wolf lead ammo, failing to close fully into battery on the third shot of a 10 round mag. That was the only time I loaded 10 rounds as our club is very bullseye-oriented with 5 rounds per mag the common loading methodology.

The sights on this pistol are good, but not terrific if one is shooting at paper targets. Front sight width almost completely visually fills the rear sight notch, leaving only a small sliver of light visible on either side of the front sight. This situation allows for undetected lateral displacement of the front sight. I also found the white dot on the front sight to be very large, large enough to permit the muzzle to drop without visual detection. The sights appear to be very robust. With the Wolf lead ammo the initial point of impact was about a foot low and six inches left at 20 yards.

The pistol is quite pleasant to shoot, far more so than expected. Grip stippling is just about perfectly suited to my taste. I found the mag release to be small and to require my hand to be rotated on the grip in order for my stubby thumb to be able to fully actuate the mag release button. For me to use this pistol in an "action" shooting game an oversize/extended mag release would be required. Those with slightly larger hands or longer thumbs would likely not have any problems with the stock mag release.

Trigger pull is stout, and DA trigger pull for those of us with smaller hands is a challenge. The trigger break is reasonably good but there is a lot of overtravel following the break. At least 1/8" of overtravel could be removed by an overtravel stop without any effect on reliability of trigger function. The trigger reset is positive and reasonably short. Consistency of trigger pull is excellent. I had an opportunity to shoot a CZ SP02 side by side with the Girsan. While the CZ DA trigger is lighter and perhaps a little shorter, the SA trigger of the Girsan gets my vote hands down over that of the CZ. The CZ simply was not consistent in length of draw and it was also rough and gritty. The Girsan features a consistent draw length and a smooth draw to a clean break. Changing the trigger-related springs will no doubt improve the Girsan trigger feel although many owners will be happy with it as it comes straight from the box.

Overall I would say that I can't see why I would buy a Beretta when the Girsan product functions every bit as well as the Beretta while providing significant cost savings. I have the impression this pistol will see lots of use and likely will soldier on with no problems. I'm not at all displeased with this purchase. Just don't get me going on the 10 weeks it took to get this pistol into my hot little hands, thanks to our CFO moving so slowly.
 
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Received my Girsan Regard MC R9 today. It came packaged in a nice plastic blow-moulded box along with a second mag, a cleaning brush and rod, a bottle of oil and a user manual as well as a cable lock. The mags are marked as being made by MecGar for Girsan and offer viewing ports to allow round count to be established by looking at the exterior of the mag.

Upon initial inspection it looked to me like machining quality in this pistol is excellent. In fact I found nothing that immediately jumped out at me as anything other than a quality finish.

To confirm, the pistol features a DA/SA trigger system, NOT Single Action as stated on Tenda's website - that clearly is an error as the DA/SA status is also confirmed in the user manual. The safety is a full decocker. From either half- or full #### hammer position, moving the safety downward to the "safe" position causes the hammer to fall against the hammer blocker and the trigger to be disconnected. DA activation only occurs if the safety is moved upward to the fire position.

A trip to the range ensued with about 80 rounds fired through the pistol, with 70 rounds of that ammo being Wolf lead, and a single five round mag of each of SynTech and XMetal were fired to verify functioning. The pistol experienced one failure to feed with the Wolf lead ammo, failing to close fully into battery on the third shot of a 10 round mag. That was the only time I loaded 10 rounds as our club is very bullseye-oriented with 5 rounds per mag the common loading methodology.

The sights on this pistol are good, but not terrific if one is shooting at paper targets. Front sight width almost completely visually fills the rear sight notch, leaving only a small sliver of light visible on either side of the front sight. This situation allows for undetected lateral displacement of the front sight. I also found the white dot on the front sight to be very large, large enough to permit the muzzle to drop without visual detection. The sights appear to be very robust. With the Wolf lead ammo the initial point of impact was about a foot low and six inches left at 20 yards.

The pistol is quite pleasant to shoot, far more so than expected. Grip stippling is just about perfectly suited to my taste. I found the mag release to be small and to require my hand to be rotated on the grip in order for my stubby thumb to be able to fully actuate the mag release button. For me to use this pistol in an "action" shooting game an oversize/extended mag release would be required. Those with slightly larger hands or longer thumbs would likely not have any problems with the stock mag release.

Trigger pull is stout, and DA trigger pull for those of us with smaller hands is a challenge. The trigger break is reasonably good but there is a lot of overtravel following the break. At least 1/8" of overtravel could be removed by an overtravel stop without any effect on reliability of trigger function. The trigger reset is positive and reasonably short. Consistency of trigger pull is excellent. I had an opportunity to shoot a CZ SP02 side by side with the Girsan. While the CZ DA trigger is lighter and perhaps a little shorter, the SA trigger of the Girsan gets my vote hands down over that of the CZ. The CZ simply was not consistent in length of draw and it was also rough and gritty. The Girsan features a consistent draw length and a smooth draw to a clean break. Changing the trigger-related springs will no doubt improve the Girsan trigger feel although many owners will be happy with it as it comes straight from the box.

Overall I would say that I can't see why I would buy a Beretta when the Girsan product functions every bit as well as the Beretta while providing significant cost savings. I have the impression this pistol will see lots of use and likely will soldier on with no problems. I'm not at all displeased with this purchase. Just don't get me going on the 10 weeks it took to get this pistol into my hot little hands, thanks to our CFO moving so slowly.

Thanks for the review.
Just to clarify; does the Decocker function only as a decocker or is it a safety too?
 
I had the pleasure to shoot pistolero_libre R9 yesterday and it’s a quality pistol and great value. For me the pistol shot point of aim and without much effort I was able to hold an 8-9 ring group on an ISSF Standard Pistol target at 20 yards one handed with Wolff 135gr lead ammo. In contrast Federal Syntech 124gr was quite poor. . The overall fit and finish is quite good especially for the price point. As a result, I might buy a Girsan 1911 match elite based on my experience of the R9.
 
To answer that question about the safety, it is a decocker and safety. In the "safe" position the hammer is down and blocked from moving forward onto the firing pin AND the trigger is completely deactivated. To fire the pistol one would have to move the safety to the "fire" position and actuate the trigger's long and heavy double action. I say long and heavy, but please understand my frame of reference as I come from a background of ISSF target pistols with proverbial glass rod triggers that break at exactly 1kg, with no grit or over-travel. Yes, I'm terribly spoiled!

As a follow up to the initial range report I'll add the results of a second night at the range. This time I had just received my new-to-me Bersa Thunder 9 Pro XT to act as a comparison piece. In this regard I would say the Girsan just "feels" better in my hand - the combination of grip size, grip shape and grip angle just feel better to me than those of the Bersa. The Bersa's trigger is waaaay better. The Bersa came with adjustable sights and a red fiberoptic dot in the front sight while the Girsan has non-adjustable sights which feature huge white dots on the rear sight and an even larger white dot on the front sight - these are quite distracting if one is attempting to shoot at a black bullseye target. I'm hoping to spend some time this evening to drift out the factory non-adjustable Girsan rear sight to replace it with a Beretta (LPA) adjustable rear sight.

Oh, one other point. The beauty of the Girsan / Beretta design is that when reassembling the pistol after field stripping, one just racks the slide and the disassembly lever returns to its "assembled" position. The Bersa requires the operator to manually move the takedown lever from the "disassemble" to "assembled" position and I found it a bit fiddly to get the slide to just the right position to allow this final stage of reassembly to take place.

Would I recommend the Girsan Regard MC R9? If one is looking for a value-oriented pistol I would recommend it highly. It packs a lot of value and a surprisingly-high level of quality. Plus it's just plain fun to shoot.
 
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