Girsan MC28 No mag loader included?

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Hello have any you recently purchased this pistol and have had it come without the mag loader? I know it's a simple item and not important to some, however I find them useful and one wasn't included with my pistol. Everything else in case was just not that. Vender on here where I bought pistol from says it's not included, however all other venders on CGN clearly show it comes with pistol.

My pistol...missing mag loader?
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What's missing....photo directly off North Sylvia Co website.
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Haven't bought one, so I have no idea, but it's pretty obviouse that the mag loader should be there with the gun,,,,that's just cheesy, sorry for your luck, quite honestly that would really piss me off if that was my purchase. I would definitely be asking the vendor what the hell is going on,,like you said, it's a small item, but it's the principal,,,don't bs me when it's obvious the mag loader should be there
 
A little thing but you are right, it's annoying. Was there a photo showing the mag loader on the vendor's website?

Sounds like maybe you picked the wrong vendor.
 
That’s not right, there’s even a cut out in your case for the mag loader. If you’re not willing to put the vendors name in the thread will you PM the details?
 
It may also be that retailers can buy these from the distributer without the mag loader for slightly less. Did this vender have a lower price for the gun than the others sellers you looked at?
 
The vender is SFRC. I see nothing but great reviews about this place so I decided to give them a try. I've ordered firearms from multiple other venders on CGN with excellent service, but decided to give them a try. Price was same as all other venders. Once I received pistol from vender I immediately unpackaged it and right away noticed the mag loader was missing...obviously right? I than emailed SFRC and explained to them the situation. I got an email back a day later from Marcie saying add doesn't show mag loader included. I than emailed back to her and explained no I know that but all these pistols that are imported into Canada come as a package deal....all other venders on CGN clearly show mag loader included! I than get a email Response from Ryan stating that they ship pistols as they come from distributor and they don't take them out and he doesn't list what's included with firearms as things are always changing from distributor....Ok I get that but in this case this is a package DEAL....there all the same in Canada. Anyhow I told him I wasn't impressed with there service and answers. I told him I would of simply appreciated a physical stock check to verify if I was shorted.....and if I could have my order corrected...Well this was his final email to me copy and paste!

I’m sorry that you thought there was one but we never advertised one and it was never shipped to us with one. If it had we would of. As well the MC28 is imported by multiple distributors not just North Sylva. Different distributors order them with different items.

Ryan

Needless to say they won't get another penny from me again...and by the looks of it they don't care!. I highly doubt all there Girsan MC 28 pistols in stock are all missing mag loaders!...honestly is doing a physical stock check asking too much?
 
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I've got a pile of similar mag loaders that I just...leave in a pile. As they are kinda OK, but kinda suck. Get a Maglula mag loader and dont' look back. You can use it on most pistol mags.

And if it wasn't advertised as coming with a schitty mag loader, then I wouldn't expect it to arrive with one. Those included mag loaders have almost no value, so I can't see a dealer wanting to keep them to sell seperate.
 
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I've got a pile of similar mag loaders that I just...leave in a pile. As they are kinda OK, but kinda suck. Get a Maglula mag loader and dont' look back. You can use it on most pistol mags.

And if it wasn't advertised as coming with a schitty mag loader, then I wouldn't expect it to arrive with one. Those included mag loaders have almost no value, so I can't see a dealer wanting to keep them to sell seperate.
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I see what your saying but it's more than just the mag loader at this point it's principle. As far as description of what's included with pistol there is none. Just a list of actual specs about pistol it's self. Not what's included. I did my research before placing order with SFRC. I literally looked at all venders on CGN that sold these pistols, some have pics up of what's included, and some list. All that list items included mention mag loader, and all pictures show complete package with mag loader, not an empty cut out. At the end of the day I should have stuck with venders I've dealt with in the past I guess. Lesson learned.
 
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The vender is SFRC. I see nothing but great reviews about this place so I decided to give them a try. I've ordered firearms from multiple other venders on CGN with excellent service, but decided to give them a try. Price was same as all other venders. Once I received pistol from vender I immediately unpackaged it and right away noticed the mag loader was missing...obviously right? I than emailed SFRC and explained to them the situation. I got an email back a day later from Marcie saying add doesn't show mag loader included. I than emailed back to her and explained no I know that but all these pistols that are imported into Canada come as a package deal....all other venders on CGN clearly show mag loader included! I than get a email Response from Ryan stating that they ship pistols as they come from distributor and they don't take them out and he doesn't list what's included with firearms as things are always changing from distributor....Ok I get that but in this case this is a package DEAL....there all the same in Canada. Anyhow I told him I wasn't impressed with there service and answers. I told him I would of simply appreciated a physical stock check to verify if I was shorted.....and if I could have my order corrected...Well this was his final email to me copy and paste!

I’m sorry that you thought there was one but we never advertised one and it was never shipped to us with one. If it had we would of. As well the MC28 is imported by multiple distributors not just North Sylva. Different distributors order them with different items.

Ryan

Needless to say they won't get another penny from me again...and by the looks of it they don't care!. I highly doubt all there Girsan MC 28 pistols in stock are all missing mag loaders!...honestly is doing a physical stock check asking too much?
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While I can understand being slightly annoyed, if they didn't show a photo or list it as being included this whole thing is really making a mountain out of a molehill. I hardly see this as an "I'll never do business with them again" offence.

Ryan's response seems pretty reasonable to me. I think the reality is that you made an assumption about the deal that turned out to be wrong. If it was me I think I'd be more annoyed with myself then with the vendor.
 
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You're over reacting. Those cheapo mag loaders are garbage. Idk why you weren't happy with Ryans answer. If he didn't get the guns with mag loaders then what's yours issue?! Go shoot the gun and stop being so damn petty.
 
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You're over reacting. Those cheapo mag loaders are garbage. Idk why you weren't happy with Ryans answer. If he didn't get the guns with mag loaders then what's yours issue?! Go shoot the gun and stop being so damn petty.
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Each to there own, I don't like being B.S ed by a vender...and I knew it,was only a matter of,time until the FANBOYS started getting there feelings hurt by me about saying negative comments about there Love affair with venders.
 
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Gunner84 said:
Each to there own, I don't like being B.S ed by a vender...and I knew it,was only a matter of,time until the FANBOYS started getting there feelings hurt by me about saying negative comments about there Love affair with venders.
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For what it’s worth Gunner84, I contacted SFRC and none of his MC28’s come with mag loaders, Ryan checked them. I’ve done many deals with Ryan and he’s always come through if there was any discrepancies. Honestly, if it wasn’t advertised then SFRC doesn’t have it. They also don’t list those items separately on their site, mainly because they are garbage and they wouldn’t stock them either way.

It’s a crappy situation but I’m sure another member here would ship that part to you for the cost of the shipping.
 
I've dealt with them ONE time 8 years ago. Does that make me a Fanboy? Lol I just feel bad for retailers for having to deal with this kinda crap.
 
As we told you they come from different distributors and each distributor orders them with different things in them. We didn’t pull the mag loader from the box. I’m sorry you assumed it came with something that we didn’t advertise it coming with.

Ryan
 
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Gunner84 said:
I see what your saying but it's more than just the mag loader at this point it's principle. As far as description of what's included with pistol there is none. Just a list of actual specs about pistol it's self. Not what's included. I did my research before placing order with SFRC. I literally looked at all venders on CGN that sold these pistols, some have pics up of what's included, and some list. All that list items included mention mag loader, and all pictures show complete package with mag loader, not an empty cut out. At the end of the day I should have stuck with venders I've dealt with in the past I guess. Lesson learned.
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Principle of expecting something that was not advertised as coming with? Laugh2

Sorry man, but really, do yourself a favour and get the Maglula loader. You will forget all about that crappy 50 cent loader and mag loading will almost be fun. :)
 
SFRC's add on those guns shows a picture of pistol only, looks like you scored big time since yours came with a case, 2 mags, a cable lock, cleaning rods, spare backstraps and a bottle of oil and all for only $399.95 with free shipping... Plus he's trying to make people happy online even on his day off! Sounds like a helluva deal to me :cool:
 
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SFRC's add on those guns shows a picture of pistol only, looks like you scored big time since yours came with a case, 2 mags, a cable lock, cleaning rods, spare backstraps and a bottle of oil and all for only $399.95 with free shipping... Plus he's trying to make people happy online even on his day off! Sounds like a helluva deal to me :cool:
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I'm ending my comments as follows....The pistol is advertised at all other retailers on CGN with all of the above items plus the mag loader too. Yes this pistol seems to be a great deal, and yes free shipping was a bonus. One must assume if all of the venders on CGN are all carrying the same Girsan package in Canada than SFRC would be the same? I guess they are the Unicorn umongst the herd of horses that didn't get mag loaders included. This simply could have all be fixed if a simple stock check was preformed as I asked to verify if indeed I was shorted, apparently Ryan has now done that thanks to Kratos.
 
A while ago, I looked online and saw that some of the Americans were getting a Girsan kit with three magazines and some/maybe all of the kits in canada were advertised with two magazines. It appears that Girsan doesn’t sell a standard kit with the same things always included. It’s easy to assume that the kits would be standard and expect something included, but we can’t expect a retailer to be responsible for something that they haven’t said was included. I can understand the expectation, but the price was good and those no-name mag loaders are poop anyways. So, just try and enjoy your pistol .... it was a good price at least.
 
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