Give me the truth - Levels/anti cant devices

Kelly Timoffee

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Been look at and trying to find first hand user knowledge of these accessories.

If you have used them how have they helped or not helped?

Maybe they are good for 1000 yard use and not 500?

Is it worth the extra clutter on the rifle?

Or are they just another item to buy for retailers to sell product?
 
In run them (flatline ops covert) on all my dedicated long range rifles . I do find they help when pushing past 1000. Depending on your shooting environment some times what looks plumb threw the scope isn't any where close if you actually pull your head back away from the gun . At 1000yds every one degree of cant moves your poi 5" to that side . A lot of people have trouble seeing 3-5*. Of cant . And 25" is a big miss!

I run alpha mounts . The FL ops when folded isn't any bigger then my scope mount
 
I have one, and find it quite useful. As said above ^^ it is hard to recognize a small amount of cant. This takes all the guesswork out. Place it along the scope tube such that you can simply avert your gaze from the optic to see the level, and you'll be using it regularly in no time flat.

Thanks,
Cal.
 
I run a Defensive Edge ACD/ACI on my 5.5-22x NXS. The nice thing about the Defensive Edge product is that it mates to the Nightforce lower ring which makes for a nice clean setup. On my 308 I run the US Optics level but all told I prefer the Defensive Edge.
 
they are a tool, and a very good tool as far as im concerned. some people will laugh at you for using them. but you get to laugh back when they miss at extended ranges. I use them primarily on my long range rifle. like the one user above mention 3-5 degree of can is a 24" miss at long range. this is the difference between a miss or wounded animal. personally I prefer dead!!!! if you looking for good solid info on rigs and setups as well as long range shooting skills. look into buying the "art of the precision rifle" they will debunk may myths and cover a wide variety of shooting gear and techniques. hope this helps
 
They work for me.
LR hit probability has improved notably in the 5 years since my best rifles began wearing one.
Out in the field, it can be startling just how far off level an otherwise proper appearing 'eyeballed' hold can be. Sometimes, a full bubble or even more of cant.
Even my field prone bipod method of group testing as close in as 200yds, shows more rounded tighter clusters ... with fewer of those pesky WTFDTOComeFrom? type of 'fliers' that go astray to left or right.
 
I even pop mine onto my 22s now. At only 100 meters a slight cant can be the difference between drilling a golf ball and arching the bullet just over the balls shoulder at 10 or 2 o'clock; depending which way the rifle is canted.
 
ultimate_monkey said:
In run them (flatline ops covert) on all my dedicated long range rifles . I do find they help when pushing past 1000. Depending on your shooting environment some times what looks plumb threw the scope isn't any where close if you actually pull your head back away from the gun . At 1000yds every one degree of cant moves your poi 5" to that side . A lot of people have trouble seeing 3-5*. Of cant . And 25" is a big miss!

I run alpha mounts . The FL ops when folded isn't any bigger then my scope mount
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Not to high jack, but what scope are you running with the Alpha Mount and Flatline Ops Covert? I was thinking of getting the same thing with a S&B PMII 5-25x56, but I'm not sure if it will fit between the turrets and the rings.
 
check your PM

edit- i guess i might as well post here, im running them on my SB5-25 w/ the alpha mount, it fits but its tight... the level is all the way up to the turret bulge dealie haha, what ever that part of the scope is called... work brain work!
 
Levels are not just for scopes, iron sighted target rifles have them too. I would say about 95% of iron sight shooters shooting long range have a level in their front sight tube.
 
swissinn said:
I have the US Optics level and its great. No breaking of cheek weld. Just open left eye and glance at it before u fire.
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I have it too and in theory it's great. The problem is that, with the swivel model (not the fixed, for obvious reasons) the pivot screw always comes loose. ALWAYS. If you aren't diligent in tightening it when you swivel it out it will work to a point where the level will droop and no longer be level. I'm sure an engineer could improve the design with minimal effort. I'm surprised that USO hasn't rectified the problem yet.
 
Well I did install one on my rifle.

As I normal shoot both eyes open it is like picture in picture and no need to move.Much more convenient than I expected.

Now I just gotta learn to shoot to take advantage of it!!
 
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