Glass Bedding Release Agent Didn't Work Now What

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I was attempting my first ever glass bedding job last night on my Puma M92 454 Casull rifle.

I put 2 coats of release agent on just like the instructions stated but now this morning when I tried to remove the bolt that holds the butt stock to the tang it will not turn... :redface:

Stuck like I mean it is in there so flipping tight/hard that I can't get it to move/budge. :eek:

I have to get this thing apart I have masking tape and putty inside to block up the areas that I didn't want bedded so the gun won't work if my life depended on it... :(
 
Try putting the rifle in a freezer overnight then crank on the stock bolt. The extreme cold may contract the metal enough to break the bond between the metal and the epoxy.

It's worked for me(once) on a bolt rifle where the barreled action was stuck after bedding.
 
OOOOOOOOH OH, you forgot to put release agen on the screw holes and screws. I did that ONCE, when I was green as grass and no mentors around. It's just not something that you think of, even though it's so blatantly obvious.

I had to drill off the head of the screw and take the stock off first. Then I took a butane torch and heated up the screw until the bedding that was siezeing everything up softened up and the screw could be grabbed with som vice grips and easily turned out. The next problem was finding another screw. bearhunter
 
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hey camp cook
dont panic yet!!!!
lets just hope that none of the bedding agent got into the threads. the best thing you could probably do at this point, is put the rifle in the freezer for a couple of hours. the the metal will shrink, [ a bit ] and maybe that will take enough pressure off the new contact point between the buttstock and the reciever to allow you to remove the screw. maybe apply some heat [hair dryer] to the reciever area as soon as it comes out of the freezer. that may also cause the reciever metal to expand faster than the bolt itself ?
i have never done a lever action before but the first bolt action bedding job i did took some serious effort to seperate. also be carefull to use the right screw driver for the job you dont want to mess up that bolt head.
just a couple thoughts. good luck.
ramhunter
 
After it's time in the freezer, try to tighten the bolt a little before you loosen it. It may help to break the hold the compound may have on the threads.
 
go straight to a soldering iron on the screw. not a pencil type, a good gun or if you are careful, the kind that goes on a propane torch.

heat the screw from both ends and it will come out.

Then put it in the freezer and slide the buttstock out. If you have to, remove the buttplate and screw on a piece of 1x4 so you can tap it straight back without having to pry and lever.

you can probably guess how I know that works
 
Is the end of the screw exposed on the lower tang? If the freezer trick fails you may have to resort to heat. Get an old fashioned soldering iron - about a 1 to 2 lb copper type- - big, or a suitable heavy piece of bar stock turned to a coned point with a flat no bigger than the screw diameter at the tip. Heat the iron with a propane torch until it is darn hot. Apply the tip of it to the center of the screw and let the heat transfer into the screw. You should try to protect any adjacent wood and wood finish from the heat. With a little good luck and patience the epoxy will soften and you can break it free. Once you start it loose don't stop turning until it's out. You might even try one of the mini butane type torches provided you can protect the wood from damage adequately.
 
Ahhh yes life is good again...

I have cured the problem I went nuts on the tang and screw with a small hammer and a brass punch banging away and "whaa laa" the screw turned loose... :dancingbanana:

Thanks for all the thoughts I was in a bit of a panic mode for a few minutes there...

I did put release agent onto the screw threads/everything that is why I was dumb founded this morning when I tried to turn it.

Thanks again

rgv my email to Ian bounced back as undeliverable I'll try and find out how to get ahold of him and forward the info to him again.
 
I don't even use the release agent I use spray on PAM..............Harold *seeing it's locked tight try shooting a few rds through it as the recoil can get to where you can't right out of the freezer checking the bore first of course.
 
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I was going to suggest an impact driver. Wonderful little tool for tight screws.

Failing that, and all of the above methods, you had a great advantage, you had the ability to get at both ends of the screw, so failing all else, you could have center punched, and drilled the threaded end of the screw.
 
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