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Ok so I have read just enough that I feel I can be dangerous on this topic. When bedding the action do you need to use a specific bedding compund (if so what) or can you just use a fiberglass epoxy? second what do you use as a release agent? And finally how far if at al do you bed under the barrel or foward of the recoil lug?

Thanks
 
Read a bit more so you are not so dangerous:p

Plain and simple answer Bisonite or Brownell's accu-glass work well. There are even kits out there that come with an instructional CD for easy step-by step instructuion for the newie. For a release agent, mould release from an industrial suppier or plain old Johnson's paste floor wax.
Lastly, I do not bed forward of the recoil lug. When you bed the action put 2 layers of tape on the front of the recoil lug, 2 layers on the bottom and 1 layer on each side. Nothing on the back of the lug except your release agent.
 
glass bedding

I agree - pick up one of their kits - either gel (which I like) or the normal runny stuff.

But they never have enough release agent -- I run out of it long before I run out of the other material. I see Brownells sells release agent separately -- does anyone know where to get more release agent locally rather then buying another kit?
 
I have done it a few times. Get the kit, follow the instructions and it will be fine!

However your rifle may not shoot any better!!:D:D:D
 
Tiwaz said:
Ok so I have read just enough that I feel I can be dangerous on this topic. When bedding the action do you need to use a specific bedding compund (if so what) or can you just use a fiberglass epoxy? second what do you use as a release agent? And finally how far if at al do you bed under the barrel or foward of the recoil lug?

Thanks
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I know what you mean by fearing that you're potentially dangerous on this issue. After reading many threads, I made the mistake in my first attempt at glass bedding of putting down too little Acraglass, and will have to do a second bedding job on the stock to fill the spots still requiring it. The sad thing is that I had a large amount of Acraglass left over in the mixing cup that went into the garbage.

In my second attempt on another rifle I put too much of the hardening compound, which actually prevents the acraglass from hardening and made it runny to make things worse. I had to take out the action and wipe and wipe out most of the bedding compound. I hope to try again on this rifle shortly.

That said, if you follow all of the instructions carefully you will be fine. I read enough about the need to use the release agent and clay/plasticine dams so that at least nothing got glued together or covered in a mess of Acraglass so that no harm was done. I have a few old Husqvarna sporters which need the bedding to prevent the development of hairline cracks. From everything that I've read I know that it will be worth the trouble in the end.

Good Luck,

Frank
 
Brownells is available at Wholesale sports. It's a great product that I have used many times and the results have always been great. It is easy to waste as the tendanct is to mix up too much. The Gel works best as it is not runny. The regular stuff works good as well...just mix in a little pf the fibergalss floc that comes in the kit. The floc will thicken up the mixture so it wont squeeze out as much. Put the release agent on with a Q tip and be generous with it. At least two coats allowing the first coat to dry before the second one is applied. When the bedding compound hardens, it might be difficult to get the action out of the stock, but as long as the release agent was applied properly, the action WILL come out. It's not a difficult job...just take your time and don't rush. Good luck
Chris
 
Tiwaz said:
Ok thanks for the answers. Does brownells ship to Canada? or do I have to find a local supplier?
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Yes, they do, I buy from them all the time. Their only bad habit is they ship by air even though they state ground shipping. It can be expensive for nothing as it will still take a couple of weeks to get through customs. They have two bedding kits, the only difference is the release agent, one is flammable, one is not. Order the one with the flammable release agent, it has to be shipped ground
 
I'm not so sure about there being a difference in release agents. I have used both kits as well and the release agent was the same in both. The Brown box is the regular epoxy which tends to run, and the green box is the Gel which is thicker and easier to use. If you buy from Wholesale Sports, you won't have to go through the hastle of shipping across the border.




darxtar said:
Yes, they do, I buy from them all the time. Their only bad habit is they ship by air even though they state ground shipping. It can be expensive for nothing as it will still take a couple of weeks to get through customs. They have two bedding kits, the only difference is the release agent, one is flammable, one is not. Order the one with the flammable release agent, it has to be shipped ground
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step by step instructions for a remington 700 with pictures

http://www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/shooting/article/0,19912,518338-1,00.html

a good general overview.

Redhouse: remove the mag box from the action while bedding, after reassembly check your side clearances around the box, doesn't hurt to remove the entire trigger assembly either and this ensures that you do not glue it up with the epoxy.
 
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I think I have a problem that bedding will solve.

my factory 10/22 will shoot great 25y < 1" groups at times.
Other times it looks like a shotgun, or it will jump to a new point of impact.

Will bedding likely solve this? Or should I look for another cause?
 
MrMatt said:
I think I have a problem that bedding will solve.

my factory 10/22 will shoot great 25y < 1" groups at times.
Other times it looks like a shotgun, or it will jump to a new point of impact.

Will bedding likely solve this? Or should I look for another cause?
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Make sure the barreled action is screwed in as tight as possible. Do not over tighten as you can strip the threads. Bedding a 10/22 in a factory stock IMHO isn't worth it. Some after market stocks can greatly improve accuracy.

While my stock 10/22 shot really good groups at 50 yds, when I mated it to a Christies Super Stock I got my groups down to dime size in the bull at the same distance. My wife did the same thing although her group was 1/2" out at 10 o'clock (using a scope and different eyes on target.)

In the rimfire forum I posted some pics of that target. The Christie's stock ain't that pretty but it is rock solid for precision .22 shooting.
 
the best release agent i've found is carnauba wax.
the downside is that the good stuff isnt cheap (a large tin of 'mother's carnauba wax' from CTC is around $20-30 if memory serves), but you can use it in many other applications (and on your car, heh).
 
Best advice I ever got on release compound came from Ian Robertson (www.robertsoncomposites.com) It's what he uses and he needs a good release compound.
Synlube 531.
It's a spray and it works great!

I've used Pam and PVA and shoe polish, but the layer that the 531 leaves is so thin it's hard to believe. The tiniest of machining marks are visible in the bedding compound.

And for bedding compound... Devcon plasic steel part # 10110 or the liquid 10210. Super low shrinkage, very high strength and hardness.
 
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