GLOCK 17 Accuracy - shots landing left

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I'm very consistent with my GLOCK 17, using Truglo Tritium sites at 5m, I can get a grouping a little bigger than a toonie - but my shots are ALWAYS left.

I cranked my rear sight left quite dramatically, but it has no effect.

I did an experiment during the weekend where I shifted the rear site almost completely to the left - fired a 5 shot grouping, then shifted it centre again and fired a 5 shot grouping - and I noticed no change; leading me to believe the problem is with me.

Anyone know what I can do to work on this?

Thanks!
 
Aim right a wee bit??????






















Just kidding, bro. I couldn't resist. I do know that there is an online "target" that tells you which habit is causing your groupings to stay outside the bullseye. Let me go find it.....
 
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It could be your squeeze? Squeezing your whole hand will cause the pistol to twist...just a suggestion.
 
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Maybe this will help????

Let us know.

Paul
 
One thing I forgot that i don't know is relevent or not, but I have a Hogue soft grip on mine - and I find that it slips left after I shoot for a while (the finger grooves slip over to the left hand side of the grip).
 
If the hogue grip is shifting, that could be it. Maybe during recoil it slides around just enough to throw things out of kilter.

Have you tried other guns, or letting other people shoot this gun? That isolates the problem. If others have the same problem with it, it's the gun, if not it's you. This can be humbling, though. I once assured someone my rifle wasn't shooting right, they showed me pretty quick what the problem really was :redface:
 
Although I'm guessing it's probably one the things mentioned in the graphic on Can Can's post upthread, you're also adjusting the sights in the wrong direction--if you want to shots to go to the right, move the rear sight to the right, although a 5m it won't make a ton of difference (as your experiment proved).
 
You moved your rear sight in the wrong direction. If you want your POI to move to the right then you need to move the sight in that direction. As future reference, the rear sight goes in the direction you wissh for the POI to go while the front sight goes in the opposite direction.


blake
 
Get rid of the slip on grip, its training wheels for the weak and serves no purpose. Second, you need to do a lot of dry fire practice at home. Third, have a buddy or fellow range user load your pistol for you(or not) and shoot. Not knowing if there is indeed a round chambered will show your flinch. The same results can be had with snap caps. Fourth, seek some professional training. Fifth, marksmanship is a perishable skill, keep shooting.

TDC
 
What TDC said.

I dont like Glock grips - I use Skateboard tape - or of recent I had the wife's G19 recontoured by a local guy (well Miami - but local Fla) and it makes world of difference.
 
I did have someone else (more professional than I) try shooting the gun and he had the same problem too (as well with a few other folks I let try shoot my gun). I was thinking about it last night after my weekly range trip and realized that the grips shifting left might have been the common factor. I don't have a tight grip, and last night I deliberately let off on my grip a little bit to compensate, but still noticed after about 10 shots a slight shift in the grip.

I'll take it off and try putting a few more rounds this weekend to see if that could have been the weak link - after all, if the grip's shifting, that means the gun is moving too and the direction it appears to be rotating around the pistol grip (counter clockwise, gun pointed down range) is consistent with a force that would cause the shots to be universally pulled to the left with different shooters with different configurations of the sights.
 
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I had a similar issue, I found using a laser while dry firing helped me a lot...expensive, but I wanted a laser and solved my problem.
 
harbl_the_cat said:
I did have someone else (more professional than I) try shooting the gun and he had the same problem too (as well with a few other folks I let try shoot my gun). I was thinking about it last night after my weekly range trip and realized that the grips shifting left might have been the common factor. I don't have a tight grip, and last night I deliberately let off on my grip a little bit to compensate, but still noticed after about 10 shots a slight shift in the grip.

I'll take it off and try putting a few more rounds this weekend to see if that could have been the weak link - after all, if the grip's shifting, that means the gun is moving too and the direction it appears to be rotating around the pistol grip (counter clockwise, gun pointed down range) is consistent with a force that would cause the shots to be universally pulled to the left with different shooters with different configurations of the sights.
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And don't forget about what Mudgunner49 said about the sight adjustment.
 
Recoil and a slip on a grip have nothing to do with where the shot lands. The bullet has left the barrel long before recoil and any slide movement take place. The slip on grip is simply a poor excuse for a shooting aid and can affect trigger finger placement which will affect where the bullets land. The sight concern is another common mistake. Centre the sights(rear sights that is) and leave them alone. Target adjustable sights belong on dedicated TARGET style firearms like those offered by Hammerli or those intended for olympic style shooting. Your Glock is a service pistol, any adjustable sights are not going to make a lick of difference. Target sights have no purpose being on a service pistol.

TDC
 
it's you. not the gun.haha. i always shoot low left at the start of the day. but when i get my fingers working after a mags or so, i usually nail what i aim . some times i shoot an odd ball to the left when i rush . i always blame myself for shooting bad. i dont care how ####ty your gun is. if it's not badly worn out or anything, at pistol shooting distances , it's usually the shooter. not the gun.
 
I'm not familiar with glocks, do they have adjustable sights?

When I shoot a pistol not set up for me I always shoot right, I beleive it's on my eyes, and not a scattered pattern (well if it scatters it's only up or down, I'm working on that) so on my pistol the gun shoot much more to the left than a normal adjusted gun. Just something to think about.
 
TDC said:
Get rid of the slip on grip, its training wheels for the weak and serves no purpose. Second, you need to do a lot of dry fire practice at home. Third, have a buddy or fellow range user load your pistol for you(or not) and shoot. Not knowing if there is indeed a round chambered will show your flinch. The same results can be had with snap caps. Fourth, seek some professional training. Fifth, marksmanship is a perishable skill, keep shooting.

TDC
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+1 - No substitute for professional training.
Just because some one has been shooting a pistol for the last 10,000 years does not mean they are an "expert" or count as a substitute for professional training. They may have just been ingraining their bad habits for the last 10,000 years. Its like a bad driver teaching new drivers.
 
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