Glock 17 FS & 17 GNS
- Thread starter Tonkaboi72
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I agree. Another barrel never hurt, and it does relieve any nasty thoughts if blowing up your OEM barrel.
TDC
Relax brother!
Most of the Glock shooter don't buy the look of Glock( some may be). We buy the reliability. When I bought my Glock, there are several there, some has much much bigger gap in between th slide and flame, pretty much every one has a different gap. now the flame is slight banded at near the muzzle area and every gun has that. If you take the gun apart, you will find the parts are quite rough, understand that they don't affect the function of the gun but just not good(fail to attention to details). Now come to the trigger pull. I shot several G17 with factory trigger and all feel differently, mine is being the toughest. If you compare Glock with Sig pro and M&P side by side and you will find the other plastic gun is more well made. I don't buy M&P or Sig SP for many other reason. I buy Glock base on I can shoot it better than my CZ but CZ is way more well build.
Trigun
It's exactly like buying a car. If you just want something to get you from point A to point B, go for the '00 jetta tdi. If you want a car that will make you grin every time you get behind the wheel, get a lotus elise.
Saying that the glock will do everything higher end guns will do is like saying we should all live like Cubans and have one kind of toothpaste in a generic white tube. Bollocks to that. Sure, when it comes down to it all firearms are the same. They launch a piece of metal out of a tube. So we should all buy glocks?
I prefer a wheelgun, a 1911 or a Sig to any plastic toy. For many reasons... trigger, looks, ubiquity, etc. I just happen to like the feel of something heavy. My personal opinion.
The bottom line is buy what you want, buy what you can afford, and don't make the decision based on what a bunch of fools on the interwebz tell you. Handle the different models and make your own choice.
The poor guy asked a question about glocks, and look what he gets.
Saying that the glock will do everything higher end guns will do is like saying we should all live like Cubans and have one kind of toothpaste in a generic white tube. Bollocks to that. Sure, when it comes down to it all firearms are the same. They launch a piece of metal out of a tube. So we should all buy glocks?
I prefer a wheelgun, a 1911 or a Sig to any plastic toy. For many reasons... trigger, looks, ubiquity, etc. I just happen to like the feel of something heavy. My personal opinion.
The bottom line is buy what you want, buy what you can afford, and don't make the decision based on what a bunch of fools on the interwebz tell you. Handle the different models and make your own choice.
The poor guy asked a question about glocks, and look what he gets.
Trigun,
I wasn't upset, I was merely puzzled how so many who feel the Glock is ugly will declare the M&P a thing of beauty in the same breath. The visual similarities are enough to make one do a double take. My question is why the distinction in appearance when they're visually near identical?
As for internals. The Glock internals are anything but "rough" and as you mentioned, any rough internals are irrelevant. To claim that Glock(or any of the major brands) failed to "pay attention to detail" is pure speculation and most likely complete crap. In this case the Glock was designed to be a service pistol, not a safe queen. When compared to other polymer guns I wouldn't say Glock is at the bottom or anywhere near. A reliable, simple pistol with only 35 pieces is hard to beat.
sogetthis,
In keeping with your theme. There aren't enough qualified drivers at this track to benefit from high end pistols or a Lotus. The fact is a quality pistol in the hands of a skilled shooter will function the same whether it has a "match" grade barrel, a honed trigger, or is bone stock. As I mentioned, if you aren't shooting bullseye or competing at the olympics the level of accuracy your discipline requires is more than obtainable with any quality brand pistol. Any of the action shooting sports does not require extreme accuracy. Again, as I've mentioned before. Accuracy is a function of the shooter, not the equipment.
Comparing the equal performance of both stock and "high end" guns to that of living in Cuba is way off base. As you mentioned, if you all need is to get from A to B than the Jetta will do. For 95% of the shooters in the community the Jetta is more than enough car for the job.
TDC
I wasn't upset, I was merely puzzled how so many who feel the Glock is ugly will declare the M&P a thing of beauty in the same breath. The visual similarities are enough to make one do a double take. My question is why the distinction in appearance when they're visually near identical?
As for internals. The Glock internals are anything but "rough" and as you mentioned, any rough internals are irrelevant. To claim that Glock(or any of the major brands) failed to "pay attention to detail" is pure speculation and most likely complete crap. In this case the Glock was designed to be a service pistol, not a safe queen. When compared to other polymer guns I wouldn't say Glock is at the bottom or anywhere near. A reliable, simple pistol with only 35 pieces is hard to beat.
sogetthis,
In keeping with your theme. There aren't enough qualified drivers at this track to benefit from high end pistols or a Lotus. The fact is a quality pistol in the hands of a skilled shooter will function the same whether it has a "match" grade barrel, a honed trigger, or is bone stock. As I mentioned, if you aren't shooting bullseye or competing at the olympics the level of accuracy your discipline requires is more than obtainable with any quality brand pistol. Any of the action shooting sports does not require extreme accuracy. Again, as I've mentioned before. Accuracy is a function of the shooter, not the equipment.
Comparing the equal performance of both stock and "high end" guns to that of living in Cuba is way off base. As you mentioned, if you all need is to get from A to B than the Jetta will do. For 95% of the shooters in the community the Jetta is more than enough car for the job.
TDC
Trigun,
My reference refarding the looks of the M&P were not directed at anyone in specific, more of a general statement.
The comments from Glock talk are no different than yours or mine. There's no special knowledge base in that forum. You know as well as I that the internals of Glock pistols are no "rougher" in finish than any other pistol from a reputable manufacturer. Like anything else, the fit, finish, and finesse is a personal opinion and varies widely.
TDC
My reference refarding the looks of the M&P were not directed at anyone in specific, more of a general statement.
The comments from Glock talk are no different than yours or mine. There's no special knowledge base in that forum. You know as well as I that the internals of Glock pistols are no "rougher" in finish than any other pistol from a reputable manufacturer. Like anything else, the fit, finish, and finesse is a personal opinion and varies widely.
TDC
