Glock 17 or Sig 228 ?

[ghostie]

Thank you for your replies, gentlemen, and specially Ghostie.
On a side note, I'd like to ask two more questions:
- is the G 19 that much different from the 17? I do not seem to find any to try. Called TSE and they don't have any for rent or sale. Nor a 17, but...
-second question relates to the Norinco Sig clones. Are they worth looking at?

GLOCK 19 is smaller. Feels smaller. Feels like a better fit in the hand to me. Less front heavy. They are cool. If you are in Vancouver you can meet up with me to try one. There must be somebody in your town that will meet you at your range.

NP34 is o.k. They are considerably rougher than the SIGs, but they are a very faithful copy of a 1980s era SIG 228. See pics. The main thing I didn't like on the one I had: the SA trigger was fine, but the DA trigger was not nearly as useable as the SIG DA trigger. I would go with a used SIG or SIGPro before looking at the NP34 (and I used to own one... it just didn't call my name to take it to the range. Other guns got a lot more attention that the Norc. They are cheap though, so that is something to consider).

GLOCK 19 vs. GLOCK 17:

GLOCK 19:

SIG 228R (restricted, purchased from Questar in 2009... awesome gun):

SIG229R:

Norinco NP34:

SIG P239:

Restricted P230 and P239:

 

[enefgee]

Lots of great advice here, but also consider this; average price of a Glock in 9mm approx $700, average price of a Sig approx $1100, difference $400. Cost of cheap 9mm approx $275/1000, so you could get a Glock, 1,000 rounds of ammo and maybe a holster and mag pouch for the price of just the Sig. The Sig isn't that much better, especially if you're not very highly experienced with pistols.

 

[eltorro]

Much appreciated Ghostie. I'm over the mountains from Vancouver. The Rockies that is.
I have decided to go for the G17, or G19 . South of the border I would have inclined towards a 19 for sure. I'll give it a week to chose between the two
I have begun putting stuff that I haven't used lately on a list.
Many thanks again to all responders.

PS: that dragon breath looks scary.

 

[dizzy]

I compare the 228 more to the steyr M9-A1, similar size barrel length, Steyr has a worse trigger, slightely lower bore axis, quicker follow up shots and trapezoidal sights which when familiarized with, work very good. Both guns are outstanding. if you can get a sig 228, do it, pass on the 229, the stamped slide balances the gun nearly perfectly.

 

[mardig88]

i hope you find someone who has them and try to see how they fit your hands
i personally dont find the sig grips confortable for my hand size/shape.
and i am the happy owner of a glock now.

 

[JBD]

Not adding any great insight here, but I had a dlask copy of the 228. The frame rail cracked, from what I have seen on the internet this happens with the original 228 as well. I do not know about recent copies like the norinco or new production guns.

I have never heard of the same problem with glocks, even though thier frame is made with plastic and only has steel at hardpoints.
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A sig can shoot cast bullets. A glock can as well, but only with the addition of an aftermarket barrel. If you are an avid reloader a sig would be less hard on your brass. Glock chambers are generously large, probably to maximize feeding reliability. However when fired the brass fireforms to this chamber. When you run it through your sizing dies it is working the brass more this may affect case life. I have never heard of a glock shooter complaining of this as thier brass will run in thier guns, and not in anybody elses. Some might consider this a feature

The retained value of a glock is abnormally high. You can now buy a New glock for about 700$ shipped. A late model used glock will go for about 600$ and a 20 year old one with 40,000 rounds through it backed over by truck will generally retail for about 450$ shipped.