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Hi everyone, Ive been reading a lot of reviews about the GLOCK 17. Becasue I am a new firearm owner I am curious if the 17 is a good starting pistol?
I have read many positive reviews about the GLOCK and from the GLOCK dealers in Ontario the price looks right.
Id like to hear your views on the GLOCK and any other handguns that are ideal for target shooting and great for beginners.
 
One of the best combinations of gun and calibre that you could come across, especially if it's a collection of one for a while. Some here might suggest something in .22lr, more economical and better to hone your skills, but why have the rest of the range laughing at you behind your back??
 
If the Glock fits your hands, great. It is harder to shoot a pistol that is too big, than one that fits properly. I am assuming you want to be able to hit your target. Try handling a number of pistols before settling on one, even if you have no intention of buying it, you'll learn a little more of what you like everytime you pick one up. Make sure you can reach the slide release without changing your grip, and make sure you can hold the pistol properly to gain the most out of every shot. This isn't a dig at Glocks, but they don't fit a large number of shooters - other than that they are durable, reliable, simple to maintain and accurate for casual shooting. One last thing, DON'T shoot lead reloads in a Glock the two are not compatible unless you are a clean freak.
 
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Like you said the price is right.When i first started out i was told by some of the old fogeys at the range to stay away from them.I wish i didnt listen to them.Took me a few years but i eventualy bought a G17 and love it.It is one of my favourite guns to shoot.I now own two G17s.Buy one and give it a try.If you dont like it you can always get a good amount of your money back from selling it on here.
 
Just my personal limited opinion since I'm very new to this myself. I've just been to TX on business a week ago or so and went to a couple of ranges where I rented and shot 5 diff guns, 40 rounds each: G17, HK USP, Browning Hi Power, CZ 75B and S&W M&P. All in 9mm. I liked CZ 75B the best but the most accurate one was the Browning. I didn't like how Glock handles at all, otherwise, it's a decent gun.
Said that, and after reading http://best9mm.com/ I'm decided on getting either CZ 75B or CZ 75 SP-01 after I get my license.

Just my 0.02
 
When I take a new shooter to the range, I give them my Glock 17 to shoot. It's simple to use, accurate, and drop-dead reliable. It's (relatively) inexpensive and has parts and accessories available most everywhere.

There are more accurate, nicer looking, more expensive pistols out there, but IMO, it's very hard to beat a Glock for an all-around pistol, especially for new or inexperienced shooters.
 
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I did a review of this gun compared to 5 others awhile back. Have a look through that:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175105

GLOCK has a lot going for it, however, my advice would be save up and get a SIG, or get a SIG refurb for around the same price, especially if you are only planning to buy one gun for now. GLOCK is simple and reliable and durable and all the other things that people say about them, however, they are not designed as - nor do they function particularly well as - a bullseye gun. They function pretty well for practical shooting - rapid shooting, multiple targets and all that - but that is where you are just focusing on hitting the target, not beaning it right in the middle or anything. If you are going to be going and learning to shoot and trying to put together small groups on a paper bullseye, I would say get something with a single action trigger (with a hammer). If you are going to be strapping on the holster and 6 mags and going at multiple targets in a rapid way, the GLOCK is pretty good for that. While that second choice may sound appealing, if you are learning to shoot don't expect to be doing that kind of shooting right off the bat. A gun with a traditional single action trigger (whether it be SA like a 1911-type gun, or DA/SA like a SIG, HK, Beretta 92, CZ, etc.) is just so much easier to learn on - and your shooting will be a lot more rewarding a lot sooner.
 
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Great info, thank you for your write-up on those guns!!

I'm still convinced CZ 75B is in the same ballpark, accurate, durable, reliable, comfortable in hand, easy to load, simple in design and good-looking; and it is pretty cheap compared to all the others too at CAD$615.00. I just wish we could buy and bring them toys from the US, they are in US$500 range new...
 
If you have your mind set on the newer tupperware guns, I'd certainly get my hands on the Smith Wesson M&P and Glock for comparison. They are both very similiar and very competitively priced. Also try a CZ for something a little more traditional in the same price range. No one has anything bad to say about them
 
As a new handgunner, no one is willing to tell you the awful truth.

It will become your only mission in life to own and shoot EVERY HANDGUN EVER MADE!

A Glock is as good a place to start as anywhere.
 
Hey all, great info; reviews were awsome as well VERY helpfull.
Keep sending in your info if you wish- I will be reading it regularly. I guess a general consensus is that if you think you like a certain firearm, you may as well try it out.
Heres something else, Im seeing a lot of publications one in particular is by Sweeney about Glock The Gun Digest Book of the Glock
- any thoughts?
Any other publications/website links would be great!!
 
newgun80 said:
Hi everyone, Ive been reading a lot of reviews about the GLOCK 17. Becasue I am a new firearm owner I am curious if the 17 is a good starting pistol?
I have read many positive reviews about the GLOCK and from the GLOCK dealers in Ontario the price looks right.
Id like to hear your views on the GLOCK and any other handguns that are ideal for target shooting and great for beginners.
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No, Glock 17 is not a good gun for a beginner in my opinion. Glock's double action only trigger has a long and relatively heavy pull that was designed to reduce accidental/negligent discharges by inexperienced cops. It was not designed for target shooting. Although this type of trigger has some benefits in the hands of an experienced shooter (i.e. consistent trigger pull) it is more difficult to master and a new shooter would be better off with a gun that is either single action only or SA/DA. I see a lot of newbies at my range with their new "tactical" Glocks and they can't hit a damn thing at 7 yards.
 
get it and don't look back.


I am not going to say I wasted my time, but I spent alot of time and money trying out all these guns. I ran through cz 75b, hi power, 1911 x2, tokarev, XD, sig, ruger, beretta and ended up selling all and hung onto the glock. It isn't that the others were bad guns, but rather, the glock was the most practical.

Design is so simple it is beautiful

cheap parts

reliable

corrosion resistant (still dont understand why more companies don't use tenifer/melonite, etc.)

have fun, you should try as many out as you can
 
I would recommend a DA/SA for first gun; that was you can learn to shot with both triggers...If you must get a DAO plactic gun I'd suggest M&P.

Glock's double action only trigger has a long and relatively heavy pull that was designed to reduce accidental/negligent discharges by inexperienced cops
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maybe a NY trigger, but regular Glock trigger is not really THAT long or heavy...before Glock came out (early 80's?) ND/AD wasn't really an issue :p
 
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capp325 said:
No, Glock 17 is not a good gun for a beginner in my opinion. Glock's double action only trigger has a long and relatively heavy pull that was designed to reduce accidental/negligent discharges by inexperienced cops. It was not designed for target shooting. Although this type of trigger has some benefits in the hands of an experienced shooter (i.e. consistent trigger pull) it is more difficult to master and a new shooter would be better off with a gun that is either single action only or SA/DA. I see a lot of newbies at my range with their new "tactical" Glocks and they can't hit a damn thing at 7 yards.
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Not "hitting a damn thing" is not the pistol's fault, it's the shooter.

I've seen guys with $1500 1911's produce targets that looks like they'd been at them with a shotgun and guys shooting amazing targets with $139 Tokarevs.
 
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Oh, in case you haven't seen it there is a forum at glocktalk dot com. Do try the Smith M&P, in some ways similar in others better and should actually be the same price or cheaper. I love mine.
 
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Not "hitting a damn thing" is not the pistol's fault, it's the shooter.

I've seen guys with $1500 1911's produce targets that looks like they'd been at them with a shotgun.
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True. I'm not saying that Glock is a bad gun. What I'm saying is that it's not the best platform to learn shooting on. Take someone who's never shot a gun in his life and give him a Glock and a 1911. I'm pretty sure he would fare better with the latter. All else being equal, guns with shortest and lightest triggers will always be easier to shot accurately.
 
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