Glock P80

thenewbieglockguy said:
Can anyone update if this can be imported or not??
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Not directly. You can buy it on gunbroker or similar and an importer such as IRG or Prophet River can import it from the FFL. Call all parties in advance to verify they are willing to participate and find out what the fees would be.
 
Big Bad said:
I thought they were on Generation 5, still seeking perfection. And that they already achieved the most innovative and copied design since the 1911.
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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but if they're 5 Generations in and they're still selling pistols with plastic sights, there's still work to be done. Also, "Most copied" is debatable - how do you even measure that? You could make similar arguments about the CZ-75 family being just as copied, if not more.

Glock is basically a one-trick pony. All they've done since the 17 has been release slightly tweaked models of the same gun, over and over again. I'm not saying that they don't make a good product, but they are starting to lose ground against their competitors. Consumers and Mil / LE customers are starting to choose other options.
 
Milofficer said:
...but Glock, like some other brands out there have kind of left the innovation to their competitors.
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Honestly, I think Glock pistols were a giant breakthrough when they hit the market, and they mostly got things right...that's why many have copied them and that's why they haven't changed much over the years.

I got one in 1986 in the early days. I really liked it, then liked gen 2 even more, and gen 3 more than that. In gen 4 and 5, the dual recoil springs are an improvement.

Just my opinion.
 
Cocked&Locked said:
Honestly, I think Glock pistols were a giant breakthrough when they hit the market, and they mostly got things right...that's why many have copied them and that's why they haven't changed much over the years.

I got one in 1986 in the early days. I really liked it, then liked gen 2 even more, and gen 3 more than that. In gen 4 and 5, the dual recoil springs are an improvement.

Just my opinion.
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I completely agree - their recipe for moulding the frame rails into the plastic grip was a big breakthrough, and their low part count matched with high quality made a really good gun for the day, especially compared to its contemporaries in the 1980s. And don't get me wrong, I think the Gen 5 is an excellent pistol and the evolutionary changes they made were all good, even if they took a long time to respond to customer demand to actually implement them.

I just think that Sig, as an example, is doing a lot more to innovate, and not just in the pistol arena. They've had some hiccups along the way (Glock did too) but the 320 family is shaping up to be a contender as the 'next Glock' in my opinion, especially with them becoming the US standard service pistol.
 
Milofficer said:
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but if they're 5 Generations in and they're still selling pistols with plastic sights, there's still work to be done. Also, "Most copied" is debatable - how do you even measure that? You could make similar arguments about the CZ-75 family being just as copied, if not more.

Glock is basically a one-trick pony. All they've done since the 17 has been release slightly tweaked models of the same gun, over and over again. I'm not saying that they don't make a good product, but they are starting to lose ground against their competitors. Consumers and Mil / LE customers are starting to choose other options.
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Nice thing about capitalism is that you get so many different choices. I like what Glock is doing.
 
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