Glock, Sig or HK?

[Ardent]

H&K hands down, then SIG, then Glock. All good, and descend in that order for me. Out of 10, I'd rate the USP a 8.5, SIG a 7.5 (only have 1, so I'm likely H&K biased) and Glocks in their various incarnations (have had G22's, G20's, G17's and 17L) I'd rate a solid 6. This scale has 5 as a good, solid, functional pistol and par for the course so to speak, so this is to say I still consider Glocks above slightly par.

You've covered the service auto bases pretty well here, with the exception of the beretta 92 (I would call it a 5, par). But the 92 is rather large and a little more ungainly than the others here, works well for many though.

(PS, and yes there are guns that rate higher than 8.5 on my scale but I won't hijack your thread with my opinions on the best, I'll stick to my own threads )

 

[Ardent]

as for power there isn't really much difference between 9mm and .45 anyways...

Huh? I assume you're one of the folks who take ft-lbs figures as all there is too it, and that's that The .45 ACP is far more powerful than the 9mm Luger, and ft-lbs is simply one measure of kinetic energy that has a bias towards high velocity. As far as impact energy, the .45 clobbers the 9mm.

Below, the link goes to show what goes into calculating impact energy, and why ft-lbs are accepted due to their ease of calculation.

http://www.oxfordcroquet.com/tech/gugan/index.asp

 

[IM_Lugger]

I said power, and I think kinetic energy is a good way to measure it. KE is not some theory like the one you're talking about. Speed kills there's nothing bias about it. Although there are other factors involved, it would be foolish to say that KE means absolutely nothing (I know you didin't say that).

 

[Trigun]

I don't want to comment about HK as I never handled one, and I think they are very ugly to me. Glock has a square grip and don't feel very comfort in hand but shoot very very good plus great balance and reliable. I like the grip angle of Glock. Sig 220 9mm and 226 is very nice gun and of course fit and finish is outstanding. Of those guns, you really can't go wrong to have them.
But better try them out before you buy. Trigun

 

[hr]

if you buy a new sig make sure you get 3 mags in the box....

 

[FN]

For 9mm you can't beat the Sig P-226. Take a look at the factory refurbs.

The Glock 21 45acp is very accurate and easy to shoot. It is built on the larger Glock frame and therefor suitable for people with larger hands.

 

[raks]

+1 vote for HK. I've used both a regular USP .45, and a Tactical .45 and I love 'em. .45 is more expensive, but as I've said before hobbies aren't about saving money!

 

[30/30]

it just doesn't get any better than 45acp for fun to shoot.......unless we're talkin' 30-30

 

[mildot]

I shot the HK USP 9 on course and I thought that it was a decent pistol. That said its personal preference.

 

[T2003]

The Sig P226 would be a great choice, from personal experience and from friends that have tried Glocks, Berettas, Walthers and HK's. A lot of us ended up going with the Sig.

That being said, if you can, you should try them all out at a rental range or at your local range first and see what feels good to you first before buying.

I love my Para LDA .45, but the 9mm is much cheaper to shoot.

 

[Colin]

Try firing all of them and then decide which fits your hand the best, as this will be the key element. As for ammo here is a rough price guide in Vancouver:

box of 50 retail

9mm= 11.50
.40= 14.00
.45= 19.00

I am getting a Sig 226, they fit my hand like a glove

 

[Dragonblade]

I agree with many of the others that 9mm is the best choice as it is far cheaper to shoot and I own both 9mm and .45. I own a Sig P226 (9mm) and like it alot. I have shot a G17 and a G22 and liked them more than I thought I would. However my next 2 handguns will both be 9mm: A CZ SP-01 Tactical for IPSC and an H&K USP Custom Sport (I always wanted an H&K).

I have not fired a USP, but have handled 2 H&K USP Custom Sports and found them comfortable.

Best bet try them out for yourself and consider CZ. Great guns for the money.

 

[UncleWalther]

I've noticed the price of ammo really coming down at Wholesale Sports. Current prices are:

9mm = 9.99
40SW = 12.99
45 Auto = 15.99

Try firing all of them and then decide which fits your hand the best, as this will be the key element. As for ammo here is a rough price guide in Vancouver:

box of 50 retail

9mm= 11.50
.40= 14.00
.45= 19.00

I am getting a Sig 226, they fit my hand like a glove

 

[capp325]

115 gr Remington UMC can be had for $8.99 per box of 50
115 gr Winchester sells for $16.xx per box of 100

 

[Ardent]

Holy hell, I used to spend $25.95 a box for .45ACP a few years ago... I like this dropping prices business, makes a guy wanna get out from behind the reloading press and go shooting...

 

[D_]

That being said, if you can, you should try them all out at a rental range or at your local range first and see what feels good to you first before buying.

Best advice going. Not all pistols that fit your hand will be the best shooters.

D_

 

[capp325]

Best advice going. Not all pistols that fit your hand will be the best shooters.

D_

You Alberta guys are funny. I don't think there are too many rental ranges outside of Calgary and Edmonton. There certainly aren't any in Ontario and, I'd venture to guess, Nova Scotia.

In an ideal world we would all be able to try every gun that we intend to buy. Unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world.

 

[Colin]

115 gr Remington UMC can be had for $8.99 per box of 50
115 gr Winchester sells for $16.xx per box of 100

Please enlighten us as to where as that is cheaper than I am buying reloads for.

 

[D_]

You Alberta guys are funny. I don't think there are too many rental ranges outside of Calgary and Edmonton. There certainly aren't any in Ontario and, I'd venture to guess, Nova Scotia.

In an ideal world we would all be able to try every gun that we intend to buy. Unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world.

I didnt know that - interesting. A lot of cash to go into with both feet if you are unhappy. An attempt should be made to try the pistol or similiar pistol style - someone should have the type of pistol you're interested in at whatever range your at. A little bit of bs talk concerning what your looking at buying and usually people want you to try firing their gun.

Just trying to point out that if it fits right in the hand it may not be the best to shoot with. An HK fits my hand like a glove but the muzzle flip is too much for me to handle.

D_

D_

 

[capp325]

Please enlighten us as to where as that is cheaper than I am buying reloads for.

Lebaron

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