GLOCK17 accuracy versus STI

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I have been shooting my GLOCK17 GEN3 for a couple of months now.

At 25 yards I get crappy 6" 10 shot groups 2 handed, no rest from a Weaver stance.

I thought it was me being a crummy pistol shot as I am mostly a revolver guy.

I was getting some instruction from an IPSC shooter this weekend. He checked my wedge grip and said I was doing it right.. He shot a group with my G17 and it wasn't much better than mine.

He then graciously let me shoot 10 rounds from his .40 STI. I had never even dry fired the pistol and shot a lovely circular 3.5" group same conditions as above.

Great, now I gotta buy an STI or at least a decent 1911.:mad:

The single action trigger on that STI was so good, now I don't want to shoot my G17 anymore :mad: Dooooohhhhh!
 
what model STI was it?

comparing a $700 wonder 9 VS a custom STI isn't fair.

Its like comparing a VW to a Porsche.
 
Musky hit the nail on the head; there is no comparison between the two. I had the same problem, though, man. I was about $1000 into saving for an Edge or a Tactical, but just wound up buying an $880 SpringField Armoury Milspec Operator, which is amazingly cool and needs to show up. Of course, $770 worth of parts was required to get it more "Tactical" than "Milspec"...

If anyone wants to buy a mitfull of "Milspec" parts, as new condition (900 rounds), shoot me a pm!
 
I don't know what model STI it was but he's a serious IPSC ninja.

It didn't have a compensator or red dot. Just big adjustable hi-viz target sights and a flared magazine well base.

The trigger was great as it had a little travel and then broke clean at what felt to me was around 3 lbs.

I am not comparing my G17 to the STI. I realize that the G17 is an in an inexpensive practical combat pistol, not a target pistol. But boy o boy I'm telling you that I'm going to buy a 9mm 1911 with a good trigger sometime soon.
 
a match barrel will help alittle but will never match a STI.....the STI has better trigger, sights, grip, fitting, bull barrell, etc...

What i would do is get 3.5lb disconnector and better sights. A set of Hienies can do wonders.
 
I dont know whats going on here....but I also got a GLOCK 17 9X19 (Stock) with Houge rubber sleeve grip on it, and its as accurate as a mother-fu*k'r

At 25 yards shooting human silhouettes, I put 10-shot clips into pure head shots standing up (Two handed agressive "Tactical" stance) with no problemz

Bench rest....even tighter!....10-shot group 25 yards as tight as virgin on her prom day.
 
The accuracy are about the same for both... to answer your question. To elaborate on this the STI felt more comfortable in your hands... it felt better, the trigger was smoother. Better ergonomics = better results.

Not everyone is comfortable shooting a Glock...with the feel of a block of wood, it can be a distraction. I love my Glocks because they feel comfortable to me, my XD40 feel more comfortable, hence I am get better results (accuracy) with it.

The pistol that feels comfortable in your hands, feels good for you to shot is probably the one for you... but only you can decide that. But whatever you get, have fun and enjoy it.
 
Musky Hunter:

I hope that's not suggesting that getting a better gun will make you a better shooter.

I will be very suprised if a slightly modified Glock with match barrel will not shoot 3.5" groups at 25 yards. Where are all the glock heads when you need them???
 
Both guns are capable of 3.5" at 25 yards the problem is that its generally harder to do it with a Glock trigger, even the light one. And harder still to do it fast.

I have to say that if you're shooting "bullseye" style targets then a 1911 or similar single action pistol is going to give the best results.

(But... I hate the grip feel, the grip shape, the grip angle and the trigger pull on glocks so I'm biased.)
 
My guess is it was probably a case of you as a fairly new pistol shooter shooting a Single action gun better then Glock's Safe Action Trigger. Or you were just shooting better ammo with his gun.

FWIW I can certainly shoot groupings less then 3.5" with my G17 with my reloads. While it's true that the Shuemann barrel in my SVI is probably more accurate then the Glock's factory barrel. The slight difference in accuracy between the two when I shoot them is a non-factor for me. BTW my reloads are quite a bit more accurate then factory ammo through my guns.
 
mebiuspower said:
Musky Hunter:

I hope that's not suggesting that getting a better gun will make you a better shooter.

I will be very suprised if a slightly modified Glock with match barrel will not shoot 3.5" groups at 25 yards. Where are all the glock heads when you need them???
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Getting the "right" gun does make you a better shooter. Even when the mechanical accuracy of two systems is the same, ergonomics play a big role in the achievable accuracy. You may notice that Olympic level shooters have their grips molded to their hands. The guns accuracy remains the same, but the shooter performs better with the gun fitted.
 
Geologist,
I think part of the equation comes down to what you're using the gun for.
Are you shooting targets at 25 yds. for fun or do you want to compete in a discipline.
I shoot for fun and relaxation.Just friendly target shooting with friends on the weekend.
I've owned a G34 and 35.
I loved the 35 the most and it was quite accurate.
But it was like a block of wood,with a different grip angle and different trigger from a 1911.
I remember the day I fell out of love with the Glocks.
I put them away and later sold them.
I had found that for me 1911's had everything I wanted.
I bought an STI Trojan in .40 and it does fit like a glove.
Why don,t you keep the G17 and order up a nice 1911.
You don,t have to fork out for an Edge.
You could get a Trojan in 9mm. .40 or 45acp.
They really are a quality pistol at a decent price.
Then again,if the Glock is still fairly new,you could sell it and wouldn,t be too far away pricewise in getting a Trojan.
 
From personal experience, good trigger pull makes the biggest difference and is far more important than match barrels, match bushings, compensators and all the other stuff. Take a double action revolver and shoot it in single action mode at 25 yards and measure the groups. Now do the same thing in double action. If the groups look similar, you're either really good or really, really bad.

The bottom line is that the Glock has a long, relatively heavy DAO trigger while the STI has a very light, crisp SAO trigger.
 
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