Glock17 or M&P9

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I was surprised not to see any forums in here comparing Glock and M&P.

I have a good deal on both guns and am thinking of getting one or the other for some plinking, some IPSC and similar range time activities.

Would owners / users of Glock 17s and M&P9s chime in their opinions and possibly compare the two?

Thank you for your input. :HFU::HFU::HFU:

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I think this question has come up a few times, but... Buy the one that feels best in your hand. If you can shoot them first, even better. I bought the Gen 4 Glock because I preferred the trigger and I already had a carbine that uses Glock mags. When comparing these two guns, it all comes down to personal preference. The quality is there on both of them.
 
Have you held or fired either? Ive shot both and own one. Both are great guns. Both have crappy trigger's The M&P feels nicer in the hand to me but I prefer the Glock trigger. Drive to Williams Arms up in Port Perry and hold both. Id say buy from a sponsor but you need to hold both in your hands and see which one feels right. His prices are on par with the sponsor's as well and he's 15 minutes away from you.
 
They are both similar in specs. Glock has been around longer and has more upgradable parts, M&P 9 has better ergonomics and cheaper than the Glock 17. You should try to hold them both and pick the one that feels the most comfortable with.
 
If you can't get them in your hands to feel them, buy both. You won't regret it. You'll likely end up owning both eventually anyway. :D
 
I agree with all 4 posts above. G17 and M&P9 are my top 2 choices for 9mm pistols and as 3 others have said, shoot both and decide based on that. Hopefully shooting both will make one jump out at you. If you shoot both and like both equally, then we have the real dilemma lol. I would give a slight edge to the G17 if you shoot both and like both equally, and this is coming from someone who has owned a couple M&Ps over the years, though I recently also got a G19.

Here are a few subjective points on the 2 based on my PERSONAL preferences. The stock Glock sights are worse than useless to me. ~$100-150 will set you up with a quality set (if necessary for you). A lot of people (not me) have issues with the M&P trigger. I think $150-200 or so will get you set up with the APEX parts required for a much better trigger. Keep in mind aftermarket sights are fine for IPSC Production division but aftermarket trigger parts will pull you out of Production. The M&P is inherently less accurate than the G17 due to the design of the barrel (twist rate and lockup time). "My M&P is uber accurate!!!!1" That's great, this is a scientific fact though. Hilton Yam has an article on it somewhere on the 10-8 blog site.

The biggest one for me is the grip angle. It doesn't bother some people and your skill level will also determine how much of an issue it is. I'm good enough that it makes no difference when slow firing but when shooting at speed, my index is set to the 1911/M&P angle so shooting my relatively new Glock does slow me down or cost me a bit of accuracy. I expect further training to correct this issue and I have adopted more of a pinch grip (Ayoob style) when shooting the Glock which I think may have fixed this problem for me.

Or as the poster above says, you may very well end up getting both eventually so it doesn't really matter which you buy first :p
 
Buy them both! Ha ha.
Lead bullets will always be cheaper than FMJ's and the M&P has conventional lands & grooves rifling. That means you can fire lead bullets as a steady diet in the M&P. The G17 has polygonal rifling specifically to fire FMJ's. While you can fire a small quantity of lead in the G17, replacing the G17 barrel with a LoneWolf conventional barrel will cost more: making the superb M&P slightly more versatile and cheaper.
Both are outstanding guns. But I take exception to the trigger comment. The G17 trigger is easily replaced to get a 3.5 pound squeeze, and the M&P right-out-of-the-box pull trigger is very good. I should know, I own and have extensively fired both. [BTW, you can get a very nice carbon steel 1911A1 9mm Military from Wolverine for C$495.00!]
 
I think this question has come up a few times, but... Buy the one that feels best in your hand. If you can shoot them first, even better. I bought the Gen 4 Glock because I preferred the trigger and I already had a carbine that uses Glock mags. When comparing these two guns, it all comes down to personal preference. The quality is there on both of them.
Actually a member from Whitby saw this post and offered me to shoot his. Thank you, guys! :)
Have you held or fired either? Ive shot both and own one. Both are great guns. Both have crappy trigger's The M&P feels nicer in the hand to me but I prefer the Glock trigger. Drive to Williams Arms up in Port Perry and hold both. Id say buy from a sponsor but you need to hold both in your hands and see which one feels right. His prices are on par with the sponsor's as well and he's 15 minutes away from you.
Yes, indeed I'm planning to go to Williams this weekend to feel and dry fire both. Shot somebody's Glock before at my club. The impression I had was that it was extremely lightweight and the trigger had so much travel that I didn't know when it would break (probably a good thing) and I also found the trigger mushy like somebody put a pillow or a marshmallow between the trigger and the gun itself. Don't have any experience with M&P though. Plan to change that this weekend.
They are both similar in specs. Glock has been around longer and has more upgradable parts, M&P 9 has better ergonomics and cheaper than the Glock 17. You should try to hold them both and pick the one that feels the most comfortable with.
M&P is cheaper? I found a deal on Glock 17 actually, which puts Glock a bit cheaper than M&P.
If you can't get them in your hands to feel them, buy both. You won't regret it. You'll likely end up owning both eventually anyway. :D
Probably true. I'll end up owning both in the end :)
 
I was surprised not to see any forums in here comparing Glock and M&P.

I have a good deal on both guns and am thinking of getting one or the other for some plinking, some IPSC and similar range time activities.

Would owners / users of Glock 17s and M&P9s chime in their opinions and possibly compare the two?

Thank you for your input. :HFU::HFU::HFU:

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Report back please interested in what you find..
 
I bought an M&P9 a few months ago, and put in the Apex trigger/spring sets. It's a joy to shoot, and I would absolutely recommend it.

That said, I'll probably pickup a Glock 17 in a few months too.
 
Thank you guys both for the tips on triggers and especially on barrels. Didn't know the difference in grooving will affect functionality in terms of FMJ or lead bullets. Learning something new every day! :)

I agree with all 4 posts above. G17 and M&P9 are my top 2 choices for 9mm pistols and as 3 others have said, shoot both and decide based on that. Hopefully shooting both will make one jump out at you. If you shoot both and like both equally, then we have the real dilemma lol. I would give a slight edge to the G17 if you shoot both and like both equally, and this is coming from someone who has owned a couple M&Ps over the years, though I recently also got a G19.

Here are a few subjective points on the 2 based on my PERSONAL preferences. The stock Glock sights are worse than useless to me. ~$100-150 will set you up with a quality set (if necessary for you). A lot of people (not me) have issues with the M&P trigger. I think $150-200 or so will get you set up with the APEX parts required for a much better trigger. Keep in mind aftermarket sights are fine for IPSC Production division but aftermarket trigger parts will pull you out of Production. The M&P is inherently less accurate than the G17 due to the design of the barrel (twist rate and lockup time). "My M&P is uber accurate!!!!1" That's great, this is a scientific fact though. Hilton Yam has an article on it somewhere on the 10-8 blog site.

The biggest one for me is the grip angle. It doesn't bother some people and your skill level will also determine how much of an issue it is. I'm good enough that it makes no difference when slow firing but when shooting at speed, my index is set to the 1911/M&P angle so shooting my relatively new Glock does slow me down or cost me a bit of accuracy. I expect further training to correct this issue and I have adopted more of a pinch grip (Ayoob style) when shooting the Glock which I think may have fixed this problem for me.

Or as the poster above says, you may very well end up getting both eventually so it doesn't really matter which you buy first :p

Buy them both! Ha ha.
Lead bullets will always be cheaper than FMJ's and the M&P has conventional lands & grooves rifling. That means you can fire lead bullets as a steady diet in the M&P. The G17 has polygonal rifling specifically to fire FMJ's. While you can fire a small quantity of lead in the G17, replacing the G17 barrel with a LoneWolf conventional barrel will cost more: making the superb M&P slightly more versatile and cheaper.
Both are outstanding guns. But I take exception to the trigger comment. The G17 trigger is easily replaced to get a 3.5 pound squeeze, and the M&P right-out-of-the-box pull trigger is very good. I should know, I own and have extensively fired both. [BTW, you can get a very nice carbon steel 1911A1 9mm Military from Wolverine for C$495.00!]
 
I was sure you should find what fit your hand better, before you ask other people to choose for you. Go out to Williams, last time i was there, they had both and see what fits you then let us know your decision.
 
I have both G17 (and also G17gen 3, gen 4, G22, G26, G27) and the M&P40.

Initially I LOVED how the M&P felt (in terms of grip and angle) but after taking it to the range, the palm swell (even with the smallest insert) pressed into my palm badly. The only way to know is to shoot them both. Ergonomics trumps looks. A pretty gun that you don't like to shoot is worthless.

Allan
 
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