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I've ordered some stuff through Glockparts. com

Anyone else buy from them? Any issues with duties as some OEM stuff is made in Austria? Any Customs problems with magazines(10 rd) on our side?

Not that I can do anything at this point, just curious....

ALSO:

If there is a good reliable place to buy Glock goodies (Can/US) I'd like to hear about them.

I'm looking for a stainless guide rod and a better mag release. The stock mag release is tricky for me to work quickly without changing my grip:confused:. Maybe it's technique...opinions welcomed.


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Glockparts.com has been great to deal with - I've ordered 3 times from them. The extended mag release was the best mod I've done to my G17. I too found that the stock piece forces you to change your grip. The $3 part from glockparts made a world of difference. Next, I ordered the 3.5lb connector - it wasn't hard to install, but it was the $20 OEM Glock version. Both times I paid $3 shipping, and no duty, tax, etc...
The third time I ordered 2 10 round mags - $42 with shipping. I did get nailed for tax ($2.99 PLUS a $5 handling fee:jerkit:). Total was $50, which was still a fair price for 2 new 10 round mags shipped.
Honestly, glockparts.com has their act together. They answer emails within a couple of hours, they ship within a day (sometimes it has been the same day) and they sell quality products. I can't say enough good about them. Have no fear dealing with them.:)
 
From a tactics stand point, your magazine release should be operated with your support hand, not your firing hand. Glocks were specifically designed so you could not easily reach the mag release.

As for sources on parts. I've used lone wolff distributors. Fast to ship, no hassles. I'm not sure if they're any cheaper than other sources but they ship quickly.

TDC
 
TDC said:
From a tactics stand point, your magazine release should be operated with your support hand, not your firing hand. Glocks were specifically designed so you could not easily reach the mag release.
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Huh? What's your source for that tidbit?
 
Stevo said:
Huh? What's your source for that tidbit?
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SIGarms academy, concealed carry, advanced concealed carry, and Range master courses. Glocks due to their design(as well as many other autos) require nearly every shooter to adjust their grip to release the mag with their firing hand. Adjusting your grip to release a mag then readjusting your grip to fire is a bad idea. Consistency is the key. By releasing the magazine with your support hand thumb you exert a more positive force on the release. After pressing the release you can sweep the front of the mag well ensuring the magazine falls free as your arm sweeps back to retrieve a fresh magazine. All this and your firing grip never changes and your pistol remains pointed in the direction of the target.

If using your dominant hand thumb works for you, so be it. I've seen many a shooters drop a mag due to negative habits formed by using their firing hand thumb to release mags. For those who don't make such mistakes, they usually get caught with a mag that hangs up and won't drop free. I never have either problem.

TDC
 
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I'm glad your method works for you and I gotta disagree with your reasoning and procedures. Your weak hand should be going for the reload while you're dumping the mag with your strong thumb. Keeping a never-moving strong hand grip is unnecessary.

How do you do a tac load with a mag in your weak hand while using it to hit the mag release and manage to catch the dumped mag at the same time?

How do you do a one handed reload?

You should not be able to reach the mag release with a normal grip, that's the way it's meant to be. It keeps you from dumping mags unintentionally. That's a reason I do not like oversize mag releases. To say that you must keep your strong hand on the gun and never move it or use it to work controls on the pistol is ridiculous.

Do you also recommend weak hand manipulation of safeties, decockers, etc?
 
Stevo,

I'm sorry, and what credentials do you have to backup your claims?? The three instructors I had were all current LEO's with a combined service time of well over 50 years. All had been in atleast one gunfight and won.

Tac reloads can be done. The support hand retrieves a fresh magazine placing it between ones fingers, then manipulates the mag release with your thumb. The partial magazine is captured via the palm and the remaining fingers(usually your ring and pinky finger). After the mag clears the pistol the fresh mag is pushed into position with the heal of the hand. A tac reload should always be done(behind cover when available) with a fresh mag at the ready prior to removing the partial mag. This reduces the amount of time your pistol is out of action.

Single handed reloads obviously require the shooter to alter their firing grip. A single handed malfunction drill(tap rack) is also very possible. One hand does not eliminate one from the fight.

As for safeties and decockers. Yes, you use your support hand to manipulate those as well. For pistols with a 1911 style safety, it isn't very prudent and is therefore not recommended. The decockers on sigs as well as those on Walther P99 pistols lend themselves very well to support hand manipulation. How else would you operate these? The Sig decocker is well outside the range of the firing hand thumb and the P99 is on top of the slide.

Tim asked for opinions, so I offer mine. As you said, if it works for you use it. Seeing as how my training came from folks who've won their gun battles I'm willing to trust what they teach. I have yet to find anything in their(Sigarms) curriculum that does not make sense in a tactical environment. They teach real world skills, not tricks for winning competitions. I'm confident in my abilities to protect myself if the need arises.

TDC
 
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Just remember what Sigarms Academy always teaches, It is not THE way, it is A way. If something works better for other folks, more power to them.

Personally I use my dominant hand to release my magazine, because it works for me regardless of what pistol I'm using. I use my non-dominant hand to decock my Sig because they suggested it and it works for me.

In regards to TDC's tactics, they work for him. They work very well for him. I shoot with him on a regular basis and him and I attended some Sigarms Academy courses together. I personally believe he is a very accomplished shooter and is on the very short list of people I would want beside me if involved in a firefight. However his techniques and tactics don't work for everyone. They did however work for the person who taught them to us, and he was involved in an assload of shootings during his career as a federal LEO in the US.

Use what works for you, and get some professional training from a reputable school. Personally I think training DVD's are a joke, you need to attend classes and get all the knowledge to get a good insight on tactics, techniques, and procedures.
 
I may have a solution to this discussion, as follows;
I can, release the mag with strong hand (optimal preference)
NOT change that hands grip on the pistol whatsoever,
always perform reloads with weak hand, (emergency, tactical, whatever),
safeties and decockers are well with in reach,
and there is never a finger in the way to accidently fumble a lever.

So here's the secret, shoot left handed fellas . . . : )
 
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TDC,
I've taken courses too, and I've never come across the method you've talked about. That's why I asked the original question.

There's more than one way to do most things.
 
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Withoutwarning,

Right you are. For left handed shooters a lot of the necessary operations are easier.

Stevo,

I fully agree. There is more than one way to perform any one action. The skills I was taught are very efficient with regards to training. All the academy's techniques build off some fundamental movements. This reduces the number of specific thought processes one must memorize and train in order to operate with efficiency under stress. For example, when one loads or reloads the pistol the sequence is always the same. Pistol held at what's called "ready gun" with the pistol parallel to the ground and elbows close to the rib cage. From this position all actions can be performed. Reloads, malfunction drills, threat scans etc. This position is also similar to a portion of the draw stroke. Minimizing movements aids in more rapid learning and greater skills retention. I have yet to find anything wrong with what I was taught. AS CP220 pointed out, the skills taught may not be for everyone. I can assure you they are valid.

TDC
 
Anyhooo....

Just a small update.

3 ten rounders and a plug came today. No hassles from customs.

Based on just this order (two more to come), I'd recommend Glockparts, if your favourite Canadian dealer is out of what you're looking for, or their prices are a little steep.

Carry on....
 
wow. there is some retarded #### in this thread.

yes, i have formal training.

hmmm. where to start? glocks were specifically designed so you could not easily reach the mag release? bull####. it was designed to be snag free, and recessed so you could not inadvertently press it without deliberate action. big difference.

i also disagree that using your support hand to press the mag release simplifies things. sure, it's simple if you don't get shot in your support hand, or if you're not carrying a baby in your left hand while you run for cover. quite simply, it is counter-intuitive to train yourself to require your support hand for a very simple weapon manipulation such a mag-change. you need to be able to operate your gun with both hands, one handed, weak-handed, etc... but what you propose is asking for trouble. yeah, you can always train to do it with your strong-hand half of the time, but remember this saying:

you will not rise to the occasion. you will not rise to your highest level of training. you will default to your highest level of training that you have mastered.

which means: keep it simple.

sure, this technique works for some guys, but even lesser skilled gangbangers and crackheads win gunfights all the time. just because they fight and win, doesn't make the skills or tactics they use any better. the will to win the fight and the mastery of skills that can be executed at all costs is ultimatley better.
 
Manboy,
I never said I couldn't do it or that I don't train with my dominant hand, just that it isn't as reliable nor is it as positive as using your support hand. Your example of carrying a baby in one hand and engaging threats dominant hand only is ridiculous. Anyone dumb enough to engage in a gun fight while carrying/holding an infant(or anything else for that matter) deserves the fate which awaits him. As your example illustrates, you are "running for cover" which usually means you are unable to accurately place return fire. Am I to assume you are firing wildly at your adversary in an attempt to cover your retreat to cover? if this is your MO you need to stop watching lethal weapon and train some more.

You should be capable of operating your firearm with left, right, and both hands. This goes for accessing your firearm(drawing) as well as accessing your magazines. Some real dirtbags have scored decisive hits with lesser skills. The question is not their skill set, it's the training and mindset of those who were shot. Even a retard can win a gun fight if he has the element of surprise. An individual or officer who fails to reload his pistol in time regardless of technique is still an one who is no longer capable of defending themselves.

Learning multiple methods can be useful. The real key is learning as few techniques as possible and still cover most scenarios. A lot of handling skills work well...On the range in a T-shirt and jeans when its plus 25. Try the same skills with winter coat and gloves on. Perhaps a wet or muddy firearm. The results often change. Worse yet, try a specific set of skills with a different firearm you're not used to operating. If you practice a skill set that covers the broadest scope of environments, weapon systems, and situations, you'll do a lot better than focusing on a skill set dedicated to one firearm, one climate and one situation.


TDC
 
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timupnorth,
Where in the US did your parts ship from and what was the total transit time from door to door?

TDC
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Colorado.

First package got to the door in under two weeks:eek: (including weekends).

Sometimes customs forgets to collect any taxes/duties.... I hear ;).

I should be so lucky on any outstanding shippments.

Super cheap shipping too; 3.76US for 3 mags and a grip plug.



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as for glock parts: i have good luck with glockmeister in the past, and lonewolf distributors has excellent service as well. in Canada i get mags from Questar. Mark has excellent service as always.
 
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