7 out of 7200 polling stations had extended hours. That's 0.09722% of polls. Not everything is a media conspiracy.
Go vote ontario!!!
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7 out of 7200 polling stations had extended hours. That's 0.09722% of polls. Not everything is a media conspiracy.
When there was talk of NDP winning this election then final results show that the PC party not only got a majority but are close to doubling the number of seats NDP has, yes, wiping the floor is the correct term.
I don't give a flying #### how many extra seats NDP got and that they are now the official opposition. Ontario has spoken.
I don't give a flying #### how many extra seats NDP got and that they are now the official opposition. Ontario has spoken.
Call it whatever you want... It's a little on the weird side... I'm a teacher , don't teach that subject but there seems to be some weirdness to it IMO. Yes I read the curriculum document. Not a fan. It just seemed like they jumped the shark a little with it . Honestly we have students struggling in math and reading but we are spending time teaching them the 5 different genders? Please. If you want to teach your kids this stuff at home fine... It's not really needed in schools imo... But hey, I'm just the teacher.
^^this^^!
if you were a teacher, you would know these changes have zero impact on math and reading. You would know that the only change would be to how much pickle ball kids play.
And weird? It's literally a single strand of a single unit. Jumped the shark?
Please feel free to go through the specific expectations and tell me which should be removed and what they should be replaced with...
And weird? It's literally a single strand of a single unit. Jumped the shark?
Please feel free to go through the specific expectations and tell me which should be removed and what they should be replaced with...
You have drank the koolaid then sir. I m a teacher but honestly I'm not sure what that even has to do with the issue. I can tell you not every teacher thinks teaching elementary school students to question what gender they actually are is a brilliant idea. Don't kids have enough to worry about already? I'm not going through it with you, it made my eyes roll enough looking at the curriculum documents once. I don't teach highschool and don't teach health but sure, I looked through it, it's sillyness... Would have been fine to update the curriculum no big deal... But they absolutely did jump the shark with it.
Read the documents for yourself. It isn't idiocy. It isn't indoctrination.
So you can't name even one specific expectation that is silly, but the whole document (90+% of which has nothing to do with ### ed) is silly and the Ministry "jumped the shark"? Just be honest and say that you didn't read the document, because it is clear that you didn't.
Waste of time on incorrect, unproven information might be more accurate then... and this is coming from someone who isn't a social conservative and was fine with some type of minimal ### ed curriculum and even an update to it. I've been more of a moderate Libertarian over the years, supported ### marriage, legal marijuana, and am 90% pro-choice.
Indeed I did sir. I try not to wast much time arguing with ppl unwilling to be reasonable anymore on CGN. Complete waste of time for me to pull up the docs and post something. How about the absurdity of getting elementary school aged children to question which of the 5 genders they are? Please. When I have full blown Liberal teacher friends admitting its a bit silly I know something is wrong.
Well, it was the best provincial voter turn out in 20 years... I think provincial turn out usually runs at 50%.
I'm totally willing to be reasonable and reasonable people can disagree. What I find to be unreasonable is when asked to identify which specific expectation you find "silly" (and as a teacher in Ontario, specific expectation should have a very clear meaning to you), you cannot. So to make your task simpler, here is the actual curriculum:
http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/curriculum/elementary/health1to8.pdf
I'll make it simpler still. The Human Development and ###ual Health expectations are on pages (document page listing, not PDF page number):
Grade 1: p 93-94
Grade 2: p 108, 110
Grade 3: p 121-122, 124
Grade 4: p 141, 143
Grade 5: p 156-158
Grade 6: p 172, 174
Grade 7: p 195-197, 199-201
Grade 8: 215, 218-220.
So, please show me where "elementary school aged children are asked to question which of the five genders they are?"
The discussion about ###-ed in this thread entirely misses the point. The reason why some parents (like myself) are strongly opposed to the ### curriculum is simply because we do not wish (for example) our children to be taught in grade 3 about ###ual orientation and gender identity (item 3.3 p. 124).
I could explain why I do not want this, but this is beside the point: I have the right (and responsibility) to educate my children the way I want, and I do not have to ask the government for permission. The government does not own my children.
Of course, if we had a real choice as where to send our children for schooling, there would be no problem. As things stand now, even private schools, if they want to be accredited, must follow Ontario curriculum.
BTW, Ontario curriculum is broken in many, many ways besides ###-ed. Ideological indoctrination is omnipresent. Classic works of English literature are not taught almost at all. World literature? Forget it. History is practically non-existent as a subject, whatever is left of geography is useless (mostly biased opinions of modern social scientists are taught, and very few facts). Mathematics and science? Don't get me started..
I could explain why I do not want this, but this is beside the point: I have the right (and responsibility) to educate my children the way I want, and I do not have to ask the government for permission. The government does not own my children.
Of course, if we had a real choice as where to send our children for schooling, there would be no problem. As things stand now, even private schools, if they want to be accredited, must follow Ontario curriculum.
BTW, Ontario curriculum is broken in many, many ways besides ###-ed. Ideological indoctrination is omnipresent. Classic works of English literature are not taught almost at all. World literature? Forget it. History is practically non-existent as a subject, whatever is left of geography is useless (mostly biased opinions of modern social scientists are taught, and very few facts). Mathematics and science? Don't get me started..
As a parent, you have the right to opt your kid out of any subject matter you don't want them taught. Just talk to the teacher or principal. There'll be some other assignment they have to do. That said, what if a parent doesn't want their kid taught about Nazi Germany? Or parabolas? As someone who spends a lot of time around kids, it amazes me how much they don't know about ###. What they do learn is from ####hub. That's another issue altogether.
And there are no fewer than three different history courses in Ontario. Any one of them will meet the requirement for a history course. Don't want to learn about Canada up to WW2, do Ancient Civilizations. Or modern Canadian history.
And don't kid yourself: Ontario's education system is phenomenal, especially compared to the US. Our math scores have dropped a little recently, to be sure, but we are still miles ahead of lots of other countries, including the educational clusterfuçk that is the US.
And there are no fewer than three different history courses in Ontario. Any one of them will meet the requirement for a history course. Don't want to learn about Canada up to WW2, do Ancient Civilizations. Or modern Canadian history.
And don't kid yourself: Ontario's education system is phenomenal, especially compared to the US. Our math scores have dropped a little recently, to be sure, but we are still miles ahead of lots of other countries, including the educational clusterfuçk that is the US.
