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Going after coyotes 'dangerous game'
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Osgoode's Paul Mussell, of Heritage Wildlife Management, is trapping
nuisance coyotes in the rural areas south of Ottawa.
-Mike Carroccetto, The Ottawa Citizen


Greely citizens told not to hunt pet-eating beasts; Ottawa councillor hires
trappers to fix problem

Tim Shufelt, The Ottawa Citizen
Published: Friday, January 18, 2008

Ottawa officials are warning Greely residents not to take matters into their
own hands in dealing with problem coyotes.

Efforts to foil the wily coyotes recently took on Looney Toons proportions
when a Greely resident apparently put out antifreeze-laced dog food in an
attempt to poison the animals.

The idea nearly proved fatal to a neighbour's dog, however, which got into
the food, according to trapper Paul Mussell.

The pet survived, which surprised Christine Hartig, a city policy officer
dealing with wildlife bylaws. "That will kill a domestic animal. It will
kill any animal," Ms. Hartig said.

"That's a dangerous game, especially when there have been people hired to
address the matter," she added.

City Councillor Doug Thompson, whose constituency includes Greely and
Osgoode, took it upon himself to pay two trappers out of his office budget
to deal with the coyotes.

Hundreds of sightings have been reported in the area. Some of the coyotes
have even killed small pets.

"I've been trapping them in the residential areas. I've been trying to get
these bold ones in and around houses," said Paul Mussell, one of the
trappers.

Last week, he nabbed a particularly aggressive coyote outside a house where
a family's lhasa apso was attacked and killed by coyotes in early December.

The animal was caught in a humane hold trap and later put down, Mr. Mussell
said.

Another 15 traps set in the Greely area lay in wait, but so far no other
coyotes have taken the bait.

They are a particularly difficult animal to track, he said, because they
don't live in one place. "They just travel wherever. So it may be a four-day
route, and they may travel 15 miles," he said.

Their sense of smell is also about 100 times better than a person's. "They
smell your traps, smell your boots, smell everything."

The prospect of bagging a coyote is much higher in Greely's outlying areas,
where hunters have the benefit of guns, Mr. Mussell said.

"Out in the rural areas, it's a little easier to hunt them. With good
hounds, that works the best. But in a residential area, you just can't do
that."

And efforts certainly have been more productive outside of Greely's
subdivisions, Mr. Thompson said.

"Within a radius of five or six kilometres from Greely, there have been
maybe 14 coyotes that have been harvested. The hunters like to say
'harvested.' "

However, harvesting can be dangerous for the hunters, as well. A Metcalfe
resident was admitted to hospital on Wednesday with serious head injuries
after being thrown from his snowmobile while tracking coyotes in an area
east of Greely.
:runaway::runaway::runaway::runaway::runaway:

Mr. Thompson said the man is a retired Metcalfe resident and an avid hunter.

According to the city policy officer, Ms. Hartig, most farmland in the
Ottawa region is exempt from a general prohibition on discharging a firearm.
For years, farmers have been shooting pesky coyotes, which can prey on
livestock, she added.

But she said she doubts the problem is nearly as big as it seems. "A lot of
those (sightings) would be the same animal, and I bet you a lot of those
would be of dogs at large."

In dealing with the problem animals, she urged people to leave the job to
the professionals.
"Let the trappers deal with it and the farmers will deal
with it on their property."

In the meantime, she advised against putting pets outside in unfenced areas
or allowing them to roam freely.




� The Ottawa Citizen 2008
 
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*[Check out the picture of this fellow holding a trap by clicking on the
URL above. Does that look like a "humane" trap to you, or not?-DRGJ]

Is this your editorial comment or the paper's?:confused:

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Definitely humane. Padded jaws and springs and swivels on the chain to remove the possibility of the animal injuring itself while trying to escape.
 
Why don't they just have the MNR have a special hunt? Or is it a really urban neighbourhood?

Mostly rural but as with everywhere there is a fair sprinkling of anti-everything transplanted urbanites.

There are lots of 'yotes around, hear them many nights. Had them chase a deer into my pond one night year before last... (Which is 50' from my house... what a racket they made!), deer got lucky he fell through where I aerate and landed on a fish crib. He got cold before I went to get him out but he was still alive. (Of course he then ran right back where he came from... dummy.)
 
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Why don't they just have the MNR have a special hunt? Or is it a really urban neighbourhood?

I'm about 10 minutes south of Greely. There's lots of coyotees. The problem is there is "shotgun only" rules for this area. (WMU65)

I'd go whack a few if I could use a rifle....but I won't be wasting too much time chasing them with the 12 guage.

From what I'm hearing, the yotes are mostly eating small dogs and cats....that's no so bad is it? Those laso apso's never STFU anyway!:p
 
Is this your editorial comment or the paper's?:confused:

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Definitely humane. Padded jaws and springs and swivels on the chain to remove the possibility of the animal injuring itself while trying to escape.

My apologies. Cross posted in a flurry of other postings. Deleted as was not my opinion nor part of the article.

LH
 
44fordy:

Check the regs. I'm in WMU 65 and use a .223 and my hunting partner uses a .243. There is shotgun only for deer for 2 weeks and a ML week. Coyotes are open all year with no calibre restrictions other than during the open season for deer. ENJOY!!!

-Jason
 
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Silly question, why is it called a dangerous activity? Because one guy can't drive his skidoo without falling off & another tried a boneheaded alpo stunt?

That makes about as much sense as telling people to not cross streets because it's too dangerous, as someone got hit once.

Talk about sterilizing the vibrancy of life!

L
 
Another 15 traps set in the Greely area lay in wait, but so far no other coyotes have taken the bait. ... In dealing with the problem animals, she urged people to leave the job to the professionals. "Let the trappers deal with it and the farmers will deal with it on their property."
Yep, sounds like the pros are doing a fine job. Whats that, one single coyote so far? :(
 
Is this your editorial comment or the paper's?:confused:

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Definitely humane. Padded jaws and springs and swivels on the chain to remove the possibility of the animal injuring itself while trying to escape.

Humane?,, not to mention that it won't be reported how many ####ing dogs will get caught in one of those stupid traps.. NOTHING WILL EVER BEAT AN EYES ON HUNTER... WTF...
 
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Humane?,, not to mention that it won't be reported how many f**king dogs will get caught in one of those stupid traps.. NOTHING WILL EVER BEAT AN EYES ON HUNTER... WTF...

Absolutely! Nail on the head. I compare a leg trap to a land mine, you have no discretion as to who or what may step on it, not a responsible or humane device
 
Absolutely! Nail on the head. I compare a leg trap to a land mine, you have no discretion as to who or what may step on it, not a responsible or humane device

You're not setting them in the middle of the SPCA.

Those traps don't kill, and your dog should be in your yard. No worries.

If you let your dog run loose in the country his life expectency is very low to begin with and you can't expect others to worry about your dog more than you do.

If I set traps on my property to protect my little girls valued kitties from those bad bad yotes, (and I have-they cry when they lose a kitty) if your dog gets into it, don't blame me, control your dog.
 
Why is this even an issue, it's the city people who move out to the rural areas with their small dogs and feed the damn coyotes.Why should a coyote be afraid of people if it's people who feed them? How do you stop a coyote from acting like a coyote? The only answer that makes sense is hunting them but thats offensive to the city people so instead they have to be trapped or sterilised.That's my rant for the day!
 
I live rural, and I have a big dog and a small dog that both stay on my property. The same rules apply both ways, when I let my little dog go outside for a run or a crap, there is little to NO chance of survival for ANYTHING that tries to sink it's teeth or beak into my little dog. Daddy's on the look out :D
 
Humane?,, not to mention that it won't be reported how many f**king dogs will get caught in one of those stupid traps.. NOTHING WILL EVER BEAT AN EYES ON HUNTER... WTF...

I HATE those ####ing traps. My dog came home with a all steel one of those on his foot, Nearly broke his foot. Thank god he was able to rip it off whatever it was tied to.

I'd rather kill my pets then limited them to only the house. That is why I live out here. We had three dogs and not one of them was attacked by a coyote. 2 Collies and one Border Collie, And the only major injuries i've seen is from other people. We have cats as well and I've never had proof of anything but cars killing them. We did chickens get killed though, but we let them run around the yard every so often so it wasn't shocking. Their barn is a fortress though. So no worries about them in there.

And Turkeyslayer is right, those people who feed animals are creating problems for everyone else. And a shot to the heart or head is alot less destructive then wide poisoning or trapping.
 
Humane?,, not to mention that it won't be reported how many f**king dogs will get caught in one of those stupid traps.. NOTHING WILL EVER BEAT AN EYES ON HUNTER... WTF...

Absolutely! Nail on the head. I compare a leg trap to a land mine, you have no discretion as to who or what may step on it, not a responsible or humane device

I HATE those f**king traps. My dog came home with a all steel one of those on his foot, Nearly broke his foot. Thank god he was able to rip it off whatever it was tied to.


Do you know anything about the trap that guy is holding in that picture? Its jaws are lined so as to not inflict any damage to the animals leg. The all steel ones, as far as I know, are outlawed for trapping on dry land...meaning still ok for use on muskrats. Those rubber lined jaws or what ever the material actually is, because it doesn't get really stiff in the cold, won't hurt your pet. A person can stick there fingers in that trap and not feel any pain. The snap of the trap going off will startle you more than anything.:rolleyes: This isn't the stone age of trapping anymore.
 
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