Going Sako

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Have been mulling over this for quite some time, but after handling rifles again tonight at my local gun shop I've made the decision to clear out my gun cabinet and purchase a Sako 85/Finnlight. I'll have to sell a BLR and an X-Bolt to do it (and possibly a BPS as well), but at the end of the day I just couldn't get past how solid, dependable, and well built the Sakos I have handled over the past year or so have been.

The only question is whether or not I should jump on the deal at my local gun shop (stainless synthetic 85 in 30-06 for $1500) or look for a short action. The scope ejection issue I've seen referenced would lead me to lean in the short action direction, but ordering a new 85/Finnlight in a short action is $1900 plus.

What I'm really worried about is "Sako creep" Namely, I'll want to add more and my bank account/VISA will seriously suffer ... ;)
 
Definitely, get a couple of 75's and 85's...and then take a look at a couple of old A-series guns. You'll start selling and upgrading again.
 
Local gun shop has a stainless synthetic Sako 75 in 308. Stock is pretty beat up, but barrel & action look well maintained. Asking price (consignment sale) is $1000. That seems a bit on the high side for me given my quick research showed "as new" or "nearly new" 75s going for $1100 - $1350.

Second question - possibly a dumb one. I've never given serious thought to purchasing a used firearm before. I understand barrels eventually wear out and stocks can become damaged - they are wear items. What about the action itself? If I purchase the rifle I would definitely send it to a gunsmith to have it checked over carefully. Can I assume that if the gunsmith "tunes up the action" (for lack of a better term) it will essentially operate as new?

My expertise is in hunting, not the mechanics of firearms!
 
Have been mulling over this for quite some time, but after handling rifles again tonight at my local gun shop I've made the decision to clear out my gun cabinet and purchase a Sako 85/Finnlight. I'll have to sell a BLR and an X-Bolt to do it (and possibly a BPS as well), but at the end of the day I just couldn't get past how solid, dependable, and well built the Sakos I have handled over the past year or so have been.

The only question is whether or not I should jump on the deal at my local gun shop (stainless synthetic 85 in 30-06 for $1500) or look for a short action. The scope ejection issue I've seen referenced would lead me to lean in the short action direction, but ordering a new 85/Finnlight in a short action is $1900 plus.

What I'm really worried about is "Sako creep" Namely, I'll want to add more and my bank account/VISA will seriously suffer ... ;)

Handling of these rifles really makes it difficult to avoid buying one.... I knew after some handling that I "needed" one. Sako creep (and optics that do them justice) are going to be real problems for you! A couple of comments to try and help inform your decisions:

Medium Action vs. Short Action: IMHO this is a real problem. I originally had a brand new 85 Finnlight in .270 (medium action but most people refer to is as long, including myself) and returned it as "defective" because the store manager and I were unable to find any acceptable mounting setup (ie undesirably high rings) that would allow the snap caps to eject properly. The higher the rings get, the less comfortable the cheek weld, to the point where you cannot have a cheek weld and see through the optic. I put "defective" in quotes because it is more of a design flaw with the combination of the ejector blade placement and weak extractor claw spring (a forum I read had a post from a member who claimed to have solved the ejection issue by replacing the extractor spring with a stronger one, which would appear to be a relatively simple fix, if the same is indeed a reliable and repeatable fix.) I was very fortunate to have bought the original rifle from a big box retailer whose manager actually cared about my experience and was willing to make it right for me, rather than send me on to Stoeger, which would have taken months and maybe not even resolved my issue, which happened with Beretta to a 24hourcampfire member Gramps2, whose thread provided helpful info on assessing this issue.

For my purposes, a .308 was essentially just as good and has now proven to be even better as I am planning on getting into reloading down the road. The short action ejects the brass much more horizontally, consistently clearing the scope. When I saw the ejection angle of my .308 rifle in the shop with some A zoom snap caps, I knew the ejection issue was not present and happily purchased it. I would recommend sticking with the short action, if there are any acceptable calibers in that action length for your purpose. Also, if you can physically watch the ejection with snap caps before buying, it is extra piece of mind, although all my reading has consistently said the short action is fine. Also, I have not had anyone confirm whether or not the magnum action has this issue, although a magnum in this configuration might be a hard kicker, my .308 has surprising recoil.

Now, there is a second issue I wished to highlight with 85 Finnlights, which may or may not be present (or admitted) in everyone's rifle but appears to be present in mine and many others. This issue deals with the stock. When I solved the first issue and moved on to trying to find a factory round my rifle liked best, I was disappointed by it's accuracy. It was shooting 2-3 MOA at 100 yards. I initially attributed the accuracy issues to the shooter and also wanted to try allowing the rifle to cool more in between 3 shot groups. 5 shot groups with this barrel were not even attempted, as the barrel was already HOT after 3 shots. I eventually improved my technique, added a very necessary limbsaver pad and experimented with rounds and found the gun liked bullets that were mid to heavy for calibre and did not like light for calibre rounds. 165gr and 180 gr Federal Trophy Copper and Trophy Bonded were able to get me closer to 1-1.5 MOA. The was fine for my first hunting season with this rifle but, still not satisfied, I continued to read forums about potential Finnlight accuracy issues and found many attributing accuracy issues to the stock, which has some odd and unnecessary internal holes and an unconventional recoil "lug" design. An Alberta Outdoorsmen forum has a thread where a member was able to modify the Finnlight stock and tighten up the accuracy by filling in some unnecessary holes/hollow areas. He also references others whose accuracy improved notably when they added a McMillan stock, whose stock internals were what he based his modifications from. So, long story short, I am looking at options re: the stock and wanted you to know that you may eventually have to plan and budget for doing the same. I may modify or go McMillan.

Just some information I felt might be useful in making your decision. I love my Finnlight and would not have chosen differently even if I had known everything I know now, but it's helpful to know these things up front ti inform your decision. Please let us know what you end up doing.
 
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Thanks for the info, definitely appreciate it.

I prefer short action cartridges so glad to hear there are no issues there.

If I do decide to look seriously at the discounted 30-06 I will make sure they mount a scope and run some snap caps through the action to ensure reliable ejection.
 
I'd take that 75 .308 every time over an 85.

Have had several each, only 75's for me these days. If you dont buy it, PM me the locale thanks.
 
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It's a slippery slope once you get your first Sako. It can only lead to another, and another.
Well worth it if you ask me.
Although $1500 is a good deal for a Sako 85 (assuming it's new), personally if you can find what you are looking for in a Sako 75, or even older A series rifles, you likely will be happier.
Though there;s nothing wrong with the Sako 85's, the 75's and older models, to me at least, feel better in hand, and have a better feeling of quality.
I have one Sako 85 in a 260 rem, it shoots and handles amazing, I just prefer the older ones.
They changed the stock design somewhat on the 85's, they fit different than older models and almost appear "thin" in comparison.
 
Sakos are great rifles. I am not particularly fond of the 85 as I liked the 75 series more but both will do you quite well. I am not sure that you will see much improvement in accuracy over the X-Bolt as the the X-Bolt is a fine rifle - I guess it depends on how your X-bolt shoots. I do like how Sako has the sub-MOA guarantee. Getting any high end rifle is a slippery slope - it is hard to settle for lower quality when you have something so nice. I tend to avoid rifles over $1500 for hunting because it almost takes away from my hunting experience if I am worrying about an expensive hunting rig banging around in the truck with me. My primary big game gun right now is a Browning X-Bolt 300 WSM/Swarovski Scope and it is distracting on hunts because I am always babying that rifle - I don't know what it would be like with a Sako/high end glass combo...

As for your question on the wearing, the action is probably the one part that will hold up the longest. I wouldn't worry too much about buying a used rifle as long as it passes the obvious checks: good clean rifling, no bulges in the barrel, bolt face/action is not rusty/pitted, stock has no serious damage (i.e. cracks) and if in general it looks good to go. 1000 for used Sako is not unheard of - the advantage to high end guns is that they tend to hold their value well. I have seen older Sakos go for the same price as when they were bought new. Personally I find the 75 more desirable than the 85 and I think that opinion is fairly well shared amongst Sako owners - Similar to Colt 1911s (series 70 vs series 80)
 
The new A7's look nice but I've never touched one. I have a sako 85 finnlight in 300 win mag. I like my larger 30cals so I'll say to get a 300. I had the ejection/scope issue when I bought it, using medium rings. I have a bushnell elite 6500 on it and the windage knob is pretty large, put high rings on and solved the problem. The high rings are pretty much perfect for me and never had the ejection issue again. Gun is very accurate tho, I've shot loads of elk and deer with it. Pretty much just have to point it at a running coyote and its down lol my opinion on caliber is biased tho because I like bigger .30cals like I said, but I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. Ive been shooting a 300 since I was 13 so it was a no brainer for me.
 
Have been mulling over this for quite some time, but after handling rifles again tonight at my local gun shop I've made the decision to clear out my gun cabinet and purchase a Sako 85/Finnlight. I'll have to sell a BLR and an X-Bolt to do it (and possibly a BPS as well), but at the end of the day I just couldn't get past how solid, dependable, and well built the Sakos I have handled over the past year or so have been.

The only question is whether or not I should jump on the deal at my local gun shop (stainless synthetic 85 in 30-06 for $1500) or look for a short action. The scope ejection issue I've seen referenced would lead me to lean in the short action direction, but ordering a new 85/Finnlight in a short action is $1900 plus.

What I'm really worried about is "Sako creep" Namely, I'll want to add more and my bank account/VISA will seriously suffer ... ;)

OP I'm in the same boat. Went into cabelas a couple of days ago to buy some bags for my vacuum sealer. Stopped by the gun counter for something to do. Handled a finnlight in 308 and fell in love with it. 10 minutes later I walked out with it. Haven't shot it or mounted optics yet. It was an impulse decision so we will see if it was a good decision.

I've decided to thin the herd and just keep the finnlight in 308 and my howa 1500 in 375 ruger for big game hunting. I have way too many calibers and it's just a pain to develop loads for them all and buy components etc. I guess I can't tell you much about the finnlight yet except I handled one and wanted it so I bought it.
 
Very nice rifles that Sako makes. I particularly liked the older ones. [wood/blued, specifically]

But after owning a couple for a decade or so, I sold them off.

If I need something specific these days, I simply get it built.

Regards, Dave.
 
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