good gun vice?

jay smith

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looking to buy a gun vice i manly want it for scope mounting and a solid rest for alignment.
i came across the "mtm site n clean" not sure if im on the right track. what brands / types of vice do you guys recommend?
thanks. jay.
 
High end tipton looks like the best vice
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/5981/tipton-best-gun-vise
But I have two from Cabela's that were cheaper

One is wooden with a rifle rest and storage drawers for tools, I use this mainly for cleaning equip storage
https://www.google.ca/search?q=cabelas+wood+gun+vice&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjY75DejczQAhWmgFQKHZuJD9EQ_AUIBigB#mhpiv=4

Two is cabelas plastic vice which is a simplified version of the Tipton.
http://www.cabelas.ca/product/39251/cabelas-gun-vise

*both of these units are great for cleaning/working on your rifles without damage. For leveling I'd suggest using a lead sled if you have one or some of your bag rests and a leveling tool as both of my vices prop the barrel slightly downwards to aid in cleaning.
 
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It's vise not vice...

A 5 or 6 inch steel vise mounted on a solid bench top, padded with 1/2 inch thick felt jaws.
 
It's vise not vice...

A 5 or 6 inch steel vise mounted on a solid bench top, padded with 1/2 inch thick felt jaws.

Good tip Dennis, I never thought about using felt....... and i have a good stash! Do you attach it permanently to the jaws of just slip it in when needed?

OP, google "gun craddle" you could make your own if your handy, I bought one of these cheap a few years back and it works for scope mounting with a bit of care even though it has no vise to lock things down.....

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SuperCub, I've seen some like that but on a small swivel ball head for changing the angle. I've found you can't have too many different clamps and vise's in a shop!

I've got a few vise's..... :) Nice to have options! A couple big English Record's and also some quick mount plastic ones like this with rubber pad's.

I bought the plastic ones to clamp and hold my belt sander upside down on job sites for quick grinding and sharpening.

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Good tip Dennis, I never thought about using felt....... and i have a good stash! Do you attach it permanently to the jaws of just slip it in when needed?

Just bend a piece,,, cut part way through on the bottom so it will bend... the U shape in the vise protects the stock from dropping onto the steel...

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thanks for all the replies. its starting to look like i need two different things.
one of the many vises suggested for torquing down and leveling the scope. and some sot of shooting rest i can take to the range so i can fix the gun on target while sighting it in.
still looking for something that will do both but is not looking like the way its done.
thanks again.
 
Jay you don't need a vice to "torque down" the scope.
You just need something to hold the gun level while you level the scope in the rings and then gently tighten the scope rings without disturbing your set up.
Some receivers are easier then others to level with a small torpedo level, and I usually level off the turret caps and when that all looks close I shoulder the rifle and aim at a known vertical line such as a door or window frame but you could also use a plum bob or laser level etc.
I don't worry about it to much as long as when I shoulder and get on the stock with a nice cheek weld the cross hairs are level and plumb.
Try youtube for some video tutorials on scope mounting.
Depending on your rings they may need to be lapped for a true pro job.

Again depending on the receiver shape you could eye ball the scope turrets with a straight edge or small square then check shouldered aiming at a vertical line.

Sounds like if anything a shooting rest might be what you are looking for, it could be used to help mount the scope and sight in but its not going to be as solid a bench mounted vise but fine for scope mounting.

A solid shooting rest might help sighting in using the 2 shot technique where you aim at the center of the target , fire, then re aim at the center if the target and adjust the turrets without moving the gun till they meet the bullet hole.
3rd shot to verify.

This assumes that you are bore sighted and on paper at your chosen range.

:)
 
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Jay you don't need a vice to "torque down" the scope.
You just need something to hold the gun level while you level the scope in the rings and then gently tighten the scope rings without disturbing your set up.
Some receivers are easier then others to level with a small torpedo level, and I usually level off the turret caps and when that all looks close I shoulder the rifle and aim at a known vertical line such as a door or window frame but you could also use a plum bob or laser level etc.
I don't worry about it to much as long as when I shoulder and get on the stock with a nice cheek weld the cross hairs are level and plumb.
Try youtube for some video tutorials on scope mounting.
Depending on your rings they may need to be lapped for a true pro job.

Again depending on the receiver shape you could eye ball the scope turrets with a straight edge or small square then check shouldered aiming at a vertical line.

Sounds like if anything a shooting rest might be what you are looking for, it could be used to help mount the scope and sight in but its not going to be as solid a bench mounted vise but fine for scope mounting.

A solid shooting rest might help sighting in using the 2 shot technique where you aim at the center of the target , fire, then re aim at the center if the target and adjust the turrets without moving the gun till they meet the bullet hole.
3rd shot to verify.

This assumes that you are bore sighted and on paper at your chosen range.

:)

thanks.
in alot of the youtube videos it looks like they clamp the gun in when leveling. its good to know i dont have to go quite that far.
the only scope install ive done is pretty armature. so im probably leaning a bit far toward tools then i need to.

what do you think of the scope rings with shims that say they dont need to be lapped?
i don't mind getting a lapping tool just don't want to run out and buy more tools then i need.
 
The Burris Signature rings with inserts are a good lap free setup and they even allow adjustment for windage and elevation if needed.
I don't have one but a torque screwdriver might be worthwhile.... is usually choke up on the wrench a bit to avoid over tightening and then go for a nice balanced torque by feel, making sure the ring halves are spaced evenly.

I bought a scope a few months ago that was advertised as having "ring impressions" which I assumed meant some blemish in the paint from the rings.....turns out in some parts of Quebec "ring impressions" is what they call a crushed scope tube where the ring has left actual indentations due to over tightening...... :( Lesson learned the hard way! Worst thing is I didn't notice it right away (just took a quick look at the glass) and gave the guy a solid feedback, when I noticed the next day that the rings had crushed the tube I got in touch and his response was..... " I told you there were ring impressions....."
Live and learn I guess, I still haven't mounted the scope yet and despite the sellers insurance that Sightron would honor the lifetime warranty even after he crushed the tube, I'm not as convinced.
 
that's annoying:mad: he must have went all commando when tightening the Rings. i will order the torque screwdriver.
as for rings im not sure i like the idea of using whatever ones i want and lapping them. haven't got that far though.
 
I haven't seen felt that thick except in boot liners. Would you mind listing your source? It looks like a great way to go

My source was an old gunsmith friend who had a huge piece of this felt 45 years ago... Today I would try sourcing from a saddle maker...
 
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