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Whistler ponders crossbow hunting ban
A resident of Whistler, B.C., wants crossbow hunting banned in the municipality after learning that it's legal to use the weapons to hunt bears within the resort community's boundaries.
Sylvia Dolson opposes bear hunting and says it's just a matter of time before a person becomes a victim of a crossbow.
"Safety is a major concern," Dolson told CBC News. "We have all kinds of parks, hiking trails, biking trails."
Dolson discovered the legal exception after a conservation officer told her firearm use was banned, but crossbow hunting was fair game.
She is urging Whistler's municipal council to amend the law, which allows crossbow hunting as long as it's more than 100 metres from occupied buildings and 15 metres from the centre line of a road. The shooter also must have a valid hunting licence.
Unlike a standard archery bow, which is held vertically, a crossbow is mounted horizontally on a stock and fired with a trigger.
Council supports a bow-hunting ban, according to Whistler's mayor.
Local hunter opposed
"We already have bylaws that address other forms of hunting in Whistler," said Ken Melamed. "And we want to make sure bow-hunting is included in these regulations."
But one local hunting advocate says a ban is unnecessary.
"There is no evidence to support that [need for a ban]," said Clark Gatehouse, president of the Pemberton Wildlife Association.
"I haven't ever even heard of an innocent bystander being hit in all of Canada. In a lot of eastern parts of North America, bow hunters hunt in and around suburban areas because it's not dangerous."
Gatehouse said there are only a few licensed hunters who use a bow in the Whistler area. The issue is expected to come before Whistler's council within a week.
Bear hunting season begins Sept. 1.
With files from the CBC's Rene Filippone
Whistler ponders crossbow hunting ban
A resident of Whistler, B.C., wants crossbow hunting banned in the municipality after learning that it's legal to use the weapons to hunt bears within the resort community's boundaries.
Sylvia Dolson opposes bear hunting and says it's just a matter of time before a person becomes a victim of a crossbow.
"Safety is a major concern," Dolson told CBC News. "We have all kinds of parks, hiking trails, biking trails."
Dolson discovered the legal exception after a conservation officer told her firearm use was banned, but crossbow hunting was fair game.
She is urging Whistler's municipal council to amend the law, which allows crossbow hunting as long as it's more than 100 metres from occupied buildings and 15 metres from the centre line of a road. The shooter also must have a valid hunting licence.
Unlike a standard archery bow, which is held vertically, a crossbow is mounted horizontally on a stock and fired with a trigger.
Council supports a bow-hunting ban, according to Whistler's mayor.
Local hunter opposed
"We already have bylaws that address other forms of hunting in Whistler," said Ken Melamed. "And we want to make sure bow-hunting is included in these regulations."
But one local hunting advocate says a ban is unnecessary.
"There is no evidence to support that [need for a ban]," said Clark Gatehouse, president of the Pemberton Wildlife Association.
"I haven't ever even heard of an innocent bystander being hit in all of Canada. In a lot of eastern parts of North America, bow hunters hunt in and around suburban areas because it's not dangerous."
Gatehouse said there are only a few licensed hunters who use a bow in the Whistler area. The issue is expected to come before Whistler's council within a week.
Bear hunting season begins Sept. 1.
With files from the CBC's Rene Filippone
Read here.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/08/04/bc-whistler-crossbow.html
And in the Whistler rag too. One guy in there needs beating with a dumb stick!!
Read the letters to the editor section.
http://www.piquenewsmagazine.com/pique/index.php?cat=C_LTE&content=Letters+1730
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/08/04/bc-whistler-crossbow.html
And in the Whistler rag too. One guy in there needs beating with a dumb stick!!
Read the letters to the editor section.
http://www.piquenewsmagazine.com/pique/index.php?cat=C_LTE&content=Letters+1730
Bear hunters exploiting legal loophole
Dolson leading effort to ban bow hunting within RMOW after bear killed with crossbow By Stephen Smysnuik
True or false: it is legal to shoot a bear with a crossbow in Lost Lake Park during hunting season.
Answer: true.
That is also the case in the Callaghan Valley and the Interpretive Forest, any logging and hiking trail or anywhere within the RMOW, so long as the hunter is licensed and, according to a loophole in the Firearms Regulation Bylaw, is 15 metres away from the centre line on the road, and/or is 100 metres away from a playground or building occupied by people or domestic animals.
"This presents a huge safety risk for residents and visitors, not to mention the animals," wrote Sylvia Dolson, leader of the local citizens' group Whistler Residents Opposed to Urban Hunting (WROUH), in a letter addressed to the mayor and all members of council.
"The wounding rate for animals shot with bows is significantly higher than those shot with firearms and they often suffer a slow and agonizing death."
Dolson, who is also the president of the Get Bear Smart Society (GBSS), is spearheading the movement to ban bow hunting within municipal boundaries. Failing that, she is hoping for at least a ban within recreational areas. In the letter, she urges council to draft a bylaw "quickly" since black bear hunting season begins Sept. 1 for bow hunters. (It begins Sept. 10 for all other hunters and ends Nov. 30.)
According to the Firearms Regulation Bylaw No. 874, 1991, discharging a firearm within municipal limits is illegal but the wording of the bylaw exempts crossbows.
"We need to add crossbows, or hunting, or something, to change that bylaw," she said, noting that the municipality could also move toward permit-based hunting, similar to what has been imposed in Squamish.
Dolson told Pique that she "would be taking on that issue as a citizen" because it's not within Get Bear Smart's mandate to have a stance on hunting.
The letter has not yet reached the mayor or councillors but there's little chance that anyone on council will oppose Dolson's petition.
"I'm sure there's a crossbow hunter out there somewhere who will be opposed to it, however I think that the safety of our citizens and the safety of the bears, the wildlife, is a little more important," said Councillor Chris Quinlan.
"I just can't see any reason why you would need to facilitate crossbow hunting within the boundaries of the RMOW. It just doesn't make sense to me," he said.
Quinlan said this issue has not yet been raised in a council setting but Councillor Ralph Forsyth said he asked at the last council meeting for staff to bring in an administrative report about bow hunting in the RMOW after a bear was killed with a crossbow near Function Junction.
Last month, the Conservation Officer Service received a complaint that a bear had been shot and killed with a crossbow south of Function Junction. Officers investigated and found that the hunter was licensed and within his legal rights as it was the spring hunting season.
"What these guys did was within the law but beyond the spirit of law," Forsythe said. "You're not supposed to shoot bears 100 feet from the highway. It's just not sporting."
This isn't a first-time incident, either. Dolson told Pique that the Get Bear Smart Society has received several complaints from concerned people who have witnessed bears being hunted with crossbows along Highway 99 and in the Callaghan Valley.
"These bears along the Callaghan, because they're being viewed every day by dozens of people, they're being habituated," she said. "Come hunting season, it's going to be like shooting fish in a barrel."
Only the first five kilometres of Callaghan Road are within municipal limits, which means that the remaining five kilometres are open to all kinds of hunting during hunting season. Dolson said that her citizen's group will be "addressing this issue directly with the Ministry of Environment," who are responsible for hunting regulations.
"There's a huge human safety risk," she told Pique. "There are people (standing) roadside, they're going to Whistler's Olympic Park and there's legal hunting with a firearm along the side of the road. I think that most people have no idea that's happening."
She would need to submit her recommended changes to the head of Fish and Wildlife at the ministry, who would then consult all of the potentially affected parties.
"I suspect it's a long (process) and it won't help our bears this fall for sure," she said.
Dolson leading effort to ban bow hunting within RMOW after bear killed with crossbow By Stephen Smysnuik
True or false: it is legal to shoot a bear with a crossbow in Lost Lake Park during hunting season.
Answer: true.
That is also the case in the Callaghan Valley and the Interpretive Forest, any logging and hiking trail or anywhere within the RMOW, so long as the hunter is licensed and, according to a loophole in the Firearms Regulation Bylaw, is 15 metres away from the centre line on the road, and/or is 100 metres away from a playground or building occupied by people or domestic animals.
"This presents a huge safety risk for residents and visitors, not to mention the animals," wrote Sylvia Dolson, leader of the local citizens' group Whistler Residents Opposed to Urban Hunting (WROUH), in a letter addressed to the mayor and all members of council.
"The wounding rate for animals shot with bows is significantly higher than those shot with firearms and they often suffer a slow and agonizing death."
Dolson, who is also the president of the Get Bear Smart Society (GBSS), is spearheading the movement to ban bow hunting within municipal boundaries. Failing that, she is hoping for at least a ban within recreational areas. In the letter, she urges council to draft a bylaw "quickly" since black bear hunting season begins Sept. 1 for bow hunters. (It begins Sept. 10 for all other hunters and ends Nov. 30.)
According to the Firearms Regulation Bylaw No. 874, 1991, discharging a firearm within municipal limits is illegal but the wording of the bylaw exempts crossbows.
"We need to add crossbows, or hunting, or something, to change that bylaw," she said, noting that the municipality could also move toward permit-based hunting, similar to what has been imposed in Squamish.
Dolson told Pique that she "would be taking on that issue as a citizen" because it's not within Get Bear Smart's mandate to have a stance on hunting.
The letter has not yet reached the mayor or councillors but there's little chance that anyone on council will oppose Dolson's petition.
"I'm sure there's a crossbow hunter out there somewhere who will be opposed to it, however I think that the safety of our citizens and the safety of the bears, the wildlife, is a little more important," said Councillor Chris Quinlan.
"I just can't see any reason why you would need to facilitate crossbow hunting within the boundaries of the RMOW. It just doesn't make sense to me," he said.
Quinlan said this issue has not yet been raised in a council setting but Councillor Ralph Forsyth said he asked at the last council meeting for staff to bring in an administrative report about bow hunting in the RMOW after a bear was killed with a crossbow near Function Junction.
Last month, the Conservation Officer Service received a complaint that a bear had been shot and killed with a crossbow south of Function Junction. Officers investigated and found that the hunter was licensed and within his legal rights as it was the spring hunting season.
"What these guys did was within the law but beyond the spirit of law," Forsythe said. "You're not supposed to shoot bears 100 feet from the highway. It's just not sporting."
This isn't a first-time incident, either. Dolson told Pique that the Get Bear Smart Society has received several complaints from concerned people who have witnessed bears being hunted with crossbows along Highway 99 and in the Callaghan Valley.
"These bears along the Callaghan, because they're being viewed every day by dozens of people, they're being habituated," she said. "Come hunting season, it's going to be like shooting fish in a barrel."
Only the first five kilometres of Callaghan Road are within municipal limits, which means that the remaining five kilometres are open to all kinds of hunting during hunting season. Dolson said that her citizen's group will be "addressing this issue directly with the Ministry of Environment," who are responsible for hunting regulations.
"There's a huge human safety risk," she told Pique. "There are people (standing) roadside, they're going to Whistler's Olympic Park and there's legal hunting with a firearm along the side of the road. I think that most people have no idea that's happening."
She would need to submit her recommended changes to the head of Fish and Wildlife at the ministry, who would then consult all of the potentially affected parties.
"I suspect it's a long (process) and it won't help our bears this fall for sure," she said.
'm sending this letter to both Whistler newspapers, RMOW council, Lil'wat Nation/Mount Currie council and Squamish Nation council.
FIrst, I'd like to clear up some erroneous and misleading information regarding bow hunting in Whistler that was included in the recent newspaper articles, then I'll make some comments regarding hunting. The Pique article included a photo of a mother bear and her 2 cubs with the caption "Under current rules, this family of bears is vulnerable to crossbow hunting." This is completely false. It is unlawful to hunt any bear less than 2 years old or any bear in it's company. I also read that "the wounding rate for animals shot by bows is significantly higher and they often suffer slow and agonizing deaths." What actual statistical evidence is being used to support this claim? Modern bow hunters are generally very efficient and humane, and suggesting that it is common that deer or bear are being wounded and left to die agonizing deaths simply isn't true.
I saw it stated that bow hunting is a "huge safety risk for residents and visitors" and this is also false. There is no evidence to support any claims that bow hunting is a safety risk for pedestrians or cyclists also using the area. In fact, bow hunting has been used extensively as a wildlife management tool in eastern parts of North America in and around suburban areas because it poses such a small risk. In all of Canada, incidents of bow hunters shooting other outdoor enthusiasts is virtually non existent.
Every day the Whistler Medical Clinic receives patients that have injuries (or even deaths) from mountain biking, skiing, boarding, bar fights, motor vehicle accidents etc. Has there ever even been a patient in Whistler due to a bow hunting mishap? I have been working in Whistler for 24 years and I've never heard of a bow hunter shooting a cyclist or hiker. Clearly, the most dangerous activity in Whistler is not and never has been hunting, and there is no evidence to support banning bow hunting would make Whistler a safer place- Although banning biking, snowboarding and driving cars might!
The main big game species hunted in the Sea to Sky Corridor are blacktail deer and black bear. Both deer and black bear are plentiful in this area. Hunters take a relatively small amount of animals and there is no conservation concern for these species populations. Both of these species provide excellent, free range, unmedicated, organic meat to hunters families. Both species have meat retention regulations- There is no strictly "trophy" hunting of these animals, all the meat must be retained. We hear quite a bit about "sustainability" in Whistler, and hunting wild game for food is possibly the most sustainable method of obtaining food in Whistler!
Hunting in the Sea to Sky corridor has been taking place for a very long time. First Nations people have used the area constantly for centuries and still do. There are relatively few bow hunters that hunt around the edges of the RMOW (I've never seen a hunter at Lost Lake and I don't expect to) There is no evidence to show bow hunters are any sort of risk to the public, and suggestions that bow hunting is a huge safety risk should be viewed with a great degree of skepticism because of this. There is no conservation concern for deer or bear in the Sea to Sky area. Rather than discussion of banning bow hunting, instead it should be encouraged as a sustainable method of obtaining the very best healthy, organic meat for your family.
A little education and some signage for hunters and all other user groups can go a long way toward mutual understanding, and would be a preferable route to take rather than banning an activity under very questionable pretenses. The Pemberton Wildlife Association would be happy to help implement an education plan endorsed by Whistler Council.
Clarke Gatehouse
President, Pemberton Wildlife Association
The Pemberton Wildlife Association was established in 1962 and is a group of hunters, anglers, bird watchers and outdoor enthusiasts joined together under the broad umbrella of conservation.
FIrst, I'd like to clear up some erroneous and misleading information regarding bow hunting in Whistler that was included in the recent newspaper articles, then I'll make some comments regarding hunting. The Pique article included a photo of a mother bear and her 2 cubs with the caption "Under current rules, this family of bears is vulnerable to crossbow hunting." This is completely false. It is unlawful to hunt any bear less than 2 years old or any bear in it's company. I also read that "the wounding rate for animals shot by bows is significantly higher and they often suffer slow and agonizing deaths." What actual statistical evidence is being used to support this claim? Modern bow hunters are generally very efficient and humane, and suggesting that it is common that deer or bear are being wounded and left to die agonizing deaths simply isn't true.
I saw it stated that bow hunting is a "huge safety risk for residents and visitors" and this is also false. There is no evidence to support any claims that bow hunting is a safety risk for pedestrians or cyclists also using the area. In fact, bow hunting has been used extensively as a wildlife management tool in eastern parts of North America in and around suburban areas because it poses such a small risk. In all of Canada, incidents of bow hunters shooting other outdoor enthusiasts is virtually non existent.
Every day the Whistler Medical Clinic receives patients that have injuries (or even deaths) from mountain biking, skiing, boarding, bar fights, motor vehicle accidents etc. Has there ever even been a patient in Whistler due to a bow hunting mishap? I have been working in Whistler for 24 years and I've never heard of a bow hunter shooting a cyclist or hiker. Clearly, the most dangerous activity in Whistler is not and never has been hunting, and there is no evidence to support banning bow hunting would make Whistler a safer place- Although banning biking, snowboarding and driving cars might!
The main big game species hunted in the Sea to Sky Corridor are blacktail deer and black bear. Both deer and black bear are plentiful in this area. Hunters take a relatively small amount of animals and there is no conservation concern for these species populations. Both of these species provide excellent, free range, unmedicated, organic meat to hunters families. Both species have meat retention regulations- There is no strictly "trophy" hunting of these animals, all the meat must be retained. We hear quite a bit about "sustainability" in Whistler, and hunting wild game for food is possibly the most sustainable method of obtaining food in Whistler!
Hunting in the Sea to Sky corridor has been taking place for a very long time. First Nations people have used the area constantly for centuries and still do. There are relatively few bow hunters that hunt around the edges of the RMOW (I've never seen a hunter at Lost Lake and I don't expect to) There is no evidence to show bow hunters are any sort of risk to the public, and suggestions that bow hunting is a huge safety risk should be viewed with a great degree of skepticism because of this. There is no conservation concern for deer or bear in the Sea to Sky area. Rather than discussion of banning bow hunting, instead it should be encouraged as a sustainable method of obtaining the very best healthy, organic meat for your family.
A little education and some signage for hunters and all other user groups can go a long way toward mutual understanding, and would be a preferable route to take rather than banning an activity under very questionable pretenses. The Pemberton Wildlife Association would be happy to help implement an education plan endorsed by Whistler Council.
Clarke Gatehouse
President, Pemberton Wildlife Association
The Pemberton Wildlife Association was established in 1962 and is a group of hunters, anglers, bird watchers and outdoor enthusiasts joined together under the broad umbrella of conservation.
Jennifer Miller jmiller@whistlerquestion.com
Hunters in the Whistler area spoke out this week against a resident’s proposal to ban bowhunting within municipal boundaries, saying the arguments for introducing the ban are based on misinformation.
Clarke Gatehouse, a hunter and president of the Pemberton Wildlife Association, said hunting accidents in general are very rare and he’s never heard of a bowhunter hitting an innocent bystander.
“(Hunting) is actually one of the safest activities,” Gatehouse said on Monday (Aug. 2). “There’s no statistics that show there’s any sort of danger posed by bowhunters.”
Last week, The Question reported that local resident Sylvia Dolson is lobbying Whistler’s mayor and council to outlaw bowhunting in town. In a letter to council, Dolson wrote that bowhunting “presents a huge safety risk for residents and visitors” who could be using parks and recreational trails alongside hunters.
At Tuesday’s (Aug. 3) regular meeting, Whistler council referred the issue to staff members to explore options to ban bowhunting within municipal boundaries.
Mayor Ken Melamed said he thought all forms of hunting were prohibited in Whistler and he was “surprised” to learn recently that bowhunting is allowed.
Curtis Christian, a longtime Whistlerite who has been bowhunting in the area since 1976, said the suggestion that mountain bikers or other backcountry users could get hit with a hunting arrow is “fear mongering.”
He said after doing some research a few years ago he didn’t find any cases of archery incidents in Whistler’s past. He’s also participated in group archery shoots with more than 300 people in the bush and there’s never been an accident.
Christian said bowhunters typically try to stay away from mountain bikers and other backcountry users who often scare wild animals away. Plus, bowhunters need to be within about 25 metres from their target to get a good shot, and they can hear mountain bikers coming from more than 100 metres away.
“You’re not just going out there shooting wildly,” he said.
In her letter to council, Dolson also wrote that animals shot with bows “often suffer a slow and agonizing death” — another argument that Gatehouse refutes. He said a good hit from a bullet and a bow can be almost identical in the amount of time it takes for an animal to die.
“Today’s modern bows are very efficient,” he said.
Gatehouse said he suspects the people who might support a ban on bowhunting are simply against hunting in general. Many hunters are interested in conservation and responsible use of natural resources, he said, and hunting is a sustainable method of sourcing food.
“It’s a good source of healthy meat,” Gatehouse said. “If you eat meat or fish it has to come from somewhere.”
Christian said his hunting practices are ethical and sustainable. He considers himself to be a steward of the Whistler area.
Whistler is one of the only areas in B.C. where bowhunting is permitted but using firearms is not, he said, and if bowhunting is banned here he’ll have to drive to Pemberton or an area some 18 hours away for a similar experience.
However, Christian said he would support a ban on the use of crossbows in Whistler. Crossbows use a mechanized action similar to a rifle and do not require the skill and practice of archery, he said.
Christian said he invited members of Whistler council to have an archery demonstration at the practice area he’s set up near his home in Creekside.
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Hunters in the Whistler area spoke out this week against a resident’s proposal to ban bowhunting within municipal boundaries, saying the arguments for introducing the ban are based on misinformation.
Clarke Gatehouse, a hunter and president of the Pemberton Wildlife Association, said hunting accidents in general are very rare and he’s never heard of a bowhunter hitting an innocent bystander.
“(Hunting) is actually one of the safest activities,” Gatehouse said on Monday (Aug. 2). “There’s no statistics that show there’s any sort of danger posed by bowhunters.”
Last week, The Question reported that local resident Sylvia Dolson is lobbying Whistler’s mayor and council to outlaw bowhunting in town. In a letter to council, Dolson wrote that bowhunting “presents a huge safety risk for residents and visitors” who could be using parks and recreational trails alongside hunters.
At Tuesday’s (Aug. 3) regular meeting, Whistler council referred the issue to staff members to explore options to ban bowhunting within municipal boundaries.
Mayor Ken Melamed said he thought all forms of hunting were prohibited in Whistler and he was “surprised” to learn recently that bowhunting is allowed.
Curtis Christian, a longtime Whistlerite who has been bowhunting in the area since 1976, said the suggestion that mountain bikers or other backcountry users could get hit with a hunting arrow is “fear mongering.”
He said after doing some research a few years ago he didn’t find any cases of archery incidents in Whistler’s past. He’s also participated in group archery shoots with more than 300 people in the bush and there’s never been an accident.
Christian said bowhunters typically try to stay away from mountain bikers and other backcountry users who often scare wild animals away. Plus, bowhunters need to be within about 25 metres from their target to get a good shot, and they can hear mountain bikers coming from more than 100 metres away.
“You’re not just going out there shooting wildly,” he said.
In her letter to council, Dolson also wrote that animals shot with bows “often suffer a slow and agonizing death” — another argument that Gatehouse refutes. He said a good hit from a bullet and a bow can be almost identical in the amount of time it takes for an animal to die.
“Today’s modern bows are very efficient,” he said.
Gatehouse said he suspects the people who might support a ban on bowhunting are simply against hunting in general. Many hunters are interested in conservation and responsible use of natural resources, he said, and hunting is a sustainable method of sourcing food.
“It’s a good source of healthy meat,” Gatehouse said. “If you eat meat or fish it has to come from somewhere.”
Christian said his hunting practices are ethical and sustainable. He considers himself to be a steward of the Whistler area.
Whistler is one of the only areas in B.C. where bowhunting is permitted but using firearms is not, he said, and if bowhunting is banned here he’ll have to drive to Pemberton or an area some 18 hours away for a similar experience.
However, Christian said he would support a ban on the use of crossbows in Whistler. Crossbows use a mechanized action similar to a rifle and do not require the skill and practice of archery, he said.
Christian said he invited members of Whistler council to have an archery demonstration at the practice area he’s set up near his home in Creekside.
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Gates ... well done & keep on with the good fight !
Any "friends" on the local municipal Staff or Council that can let you know whenever this matter comes up for discussion or is to be placed on an agenda ? Watch the tree-huggers and granola-heads, they'll tyry the back door, endrun route every time if they think they can get away with it.
Any "advocate" DNR, F&W types ( bio/enforcement ) willing to get involved to affirm the positive side ? The "anti's" find it very difficult to argue against "science". Their MO is usually to play on feelings, emotions, fear and disinformation.
Any "friends" on the local municipal Staff or Council that can let you know whenever this matter comes up for discussion or is to be placed on an agenda ? Watch the tree-huggers and granola-heads, they'll tyry the back door, endrun route every time if they think they can get away with it.
Any "advocate" DNR, F&W types ( bio/enforcement ) willing to get involved to affirm the positive side ? The "anti's" find it very difficult to argue against "science". Their MO is usually to play on feelings, emotions, fear and disinformation.
Oh no! Christian has set up an unauthorized RANGE!!! He's sure to get raided and have chunks of soy and going-cold lattes lobbed at him as he's paraded through town.
It sure sounds like an anti-hunting, "won't someone think of the children", panicy person going off her nut. I'll bet half these people thing meat grows on trees, or magically appears in supermarkets, just like that post in the San Francisco paper alluded (does anyone have that, btw?)
Personally, I'd rather eat something I hunted free-range, than something from a KFC chicken factory, yet that's perfectly allowed.
It's the decline of Western Civilization as a whole, and Canadian Society in particular, where everyone rubberizes playground equipment, bans lawn darts, mandates bicycle helmets, pushes all responsibility for raising kids on daycares and schools, sues everyone who looks at them, doesn't like to think about where meat comes from, and wouldn't raise a finger to help themselves (someone else's job, right?). If another War breaks out, the scale of WW1 or WW2, Canada will be swept aside as irrelevant - the urge to do what it takes to survive has been slowly bred out of us, and you won't find it in a Starbucks. You know who else likes to feel safe and not think about the bad things that happen around them? Sheep.
Where's a Right-wing-version of Rick Mercer when you need him!
It sure sounds like an anti-hunting, "won't someone think of the children", panicy person going off her nut. I'll bet half these people thing meat grows on trees, or magically appears in supermarkets, just like that post in the San Francisco paper alluded (does anyone have that, btw?)
Personally, I'd rather eat something I hunted free-range, than something from a KFC chicken factory, yet that's perfectly allowed.
It's the decline of Western Civilization as a whole, and Canadian Society in particular, where everyone rubberizes playground equipment, bans lawn darts, mandates bicycle helmets, pushes all responsibility for raising kids on daycares and schools, sues everyone who looks at them, doesn't like to think about where meat comes from, and wouldn't raise a finger to help themselves (someone else's job, right?). If another War breaks out, the scale of WW1 or WW2, Canada will be swept aside as irrelevant - the urge to do what it takes to survive has been slowly bred out of us, and you won't find it in a Starbucks. You know who else likes to feel safe and not think about the bad things that happen around them? Sheep.
Where's a Right-wing-version of Rick Mercer when you need him!
Don't stereotype Whistlerites!!!
lol,
Its ok if you call them "Douche filled s**t holes" but dont dare call the anti hunters hippies
