Good non restricted "AR" type rifle.

cr5 said:
Good to hear the MR barrel likes AE 55gr, I have one waiting for an ATRS receiver set and have lots of that stuff sitting in the ammo closet.
Rifles look good gentlemen, I'm not sure I like the look of the slanted magwell but it's just cosmetic and definitely makes it look different than an AR.

Keep the pics and range reports coming :)
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I am with you on the mag well, but oh well (shrugs shoulders). Fingers crossed for my ATRS set.

I have blue boxed AE 55’s that are higher velocity the the Red box AE 55’s that are accurate. The red box disappointed me.

This particular MR barrel is a mid length gas system and not the rifle length that many are purchasing. I would also endorse this fine Canadian product as I plan on using a 17” MR for-end on the next upper receiver set to keep the set “all Canadian”.
 
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Boom_Stick said:
Where can you buy this?
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The EE in not too long I would think. Many guys just don't want the hassle of having to fit parts, recontour magwells and uppers. Maybe when MDI gets their stuff sorted out they will be worth the G note they are asking for them.
My money is on the ATRS Modern Sporter, so far personal experience with the lower I just got is that it is as close to perfect as anyone can ask as far as fit, finish and the greater aceptance of AR parts. The feedback from others has been very good so far, AND they actually delivered in the timeframes they put forward.
 
no-one special said:
The EE in not too long I would think. Many guys just don't want the hassle of having to fit parts, recontour magwells and uppers. Maybe when MDI gets their stuff sorted out they will be worth the G note they are asking for them.
My money is on the ATRS Modern Sporter, so far personal experience with the lower I just got is that it is as close to perfect as anyone can ask as far as fit, finish and the greater aceptance of AR parts. The feedback from others has been very good so far, AND they actually delivered in the timeframes they put forward.
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I take it with a grain of salt when I hear these horror stories about grinding and drilling because I have not experienced one of these issues (Parts selection is vital) I am no brain surgeon so if I can make one work I am sure everybody else can.

I have been around these rifles a long time and can say while not perfect they are a fine receiver set and can equal the quality of any other. Yes it’s expensive with a cost the rivals a very high end AR15 brand, but that is our fault for requesting a NR black rifle. The MS is also a fine product which I will be comparing the SLR to as soon as I receive it. I am going into my procurement of the MS with open eyes as I have always been a supporter of the Alberta Mondern series of products of which have had their own haters on this board.

It’s just good that we now have product options. Well until this damn Regressive Liberal party changes it.

In short a black rifle dreamer will not go wrong with an SLR.

As posted from a vendors website:

Compatible with:

AR original parts and most handguards, pistol grips, barrels, handguards, triggers
AR-15/STANAG magazines
Some AR-15 aftermarket parts that mount to the receiver. This is a brand new product so some parts need to be test-fit before we'll know for sure
 
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Its held together by bolts in aluminum, A trigger box that needs to be modified to get a Geissele trigger to fit , And the anodising is horrible. Its not even in the same league as the MVs. Part selection should not be an issue at all. thats just a copout because they are not to spec !

its on Par with BCL tho! ... lol...

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DILLIGAF said:
Its held together by bolts in aluminum, A trigger box that needs to be modified to get a Geissele trigger to fit , And the anodising is horrible. Its not even in the same league as the MVs. Part selection should not be an issue at all. thats just a copout because they are not to spec !

its on Par with BCL tho! ... lol...

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Not to spec, Spec of what? It’s not a mil-Spec AR equivalent which is why it’s NR. I mean no disrespect but I would never heavily modify a part of any rifle like you have done to that trigger box. But that is just me and how I roll.
 
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Sqr said:
Not to spec, Spec of what? It’s not a mil-Spec AR equivalent which is why it’s NR. I mean no disrespect but I would never heavily modify a part of any rifle like you have done to that trigger box. But that is just me and how I roll.
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No it's not mil-spec but it was advertised to fit mil-spec parts and while most people seem to have gotten a decent product, just like BCL there are also too many people who have posted about pins not fitting and holes not big enough for the safety to fit. No one should have to modify a $1000 new receiver to fit the parts that it was built to fit, and cutting into the product removes the surface hardening which will cause it to wear faster and get sloppy.

Those that got a good one seem to have a very nice rifle but there were too many people that did not get what they paid for.
At least they seem to be standing behind them with warranty replacements but I would guess that every warranty replacement means someone down the list has to wait a little longer for a product that was supposed to have been delivered months ago. Ya ya, it was an estimated date, that's horse spit, in any other industry they would have lost every deposit placed by their customers when they didn't deliver within a month or two of their original estimated delivery date but Canadian gun owners are so desperate for a non restricted AR style rifle they will defend the stupidest excuses and continue to stand in line for something from a company with no history and no idea how to run a business.
 
cr5 said:
No it's not mil-spec but it was advertised to fit mil-spec parts and while most people seem to have gotten a decent product, just like BCL there are also too many people who have posted about pins not fitting and holes not big enough for the safety to fit. No one should have to modify a $1000 new receiver to fit the parts that it was built to fit, and cutting into the product removes the surface hardening which will cause it to wear faster and get sloppy.

Those that got a good one seem to have a very nice rifle but there were too many people that did not get what they paid for.
At least they seem to be standing behind them with warranty replacements but I would guess that every warranty replacement means someone down the list has to wait a little longer for a product that was supposed to have been delivered months ago. Ya ya, it was an estimated date, that's horse spit, in any other industry they would have lost every deposit placed by their customers when they didn't deliver within a month or two of their original estimated delivery date but Canadian gun owners are so desperate for a non restricted AR style rifle they will defend the stupidest excuses and continue to stand in line for something from a company with no history and no idea how to run a business.
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100% agree!! To have to grind, sand, file of modify the aluminum parts at all should not be necessary on a $1000.00 receiver set, period.
 
DILLIGAF said:
Funny all parts fit the MVs, Its NR, same price point !
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Funny thing about that though, Without the SLR would the MVS even exist. Before Maccabee was making up unrealistic timelines I remember when ATRS was not offering stripped receivers, I’m pretty sure I even remember a firm no to bare receivers. Mine went together just fine, took 8 months, but I didn’t have a single problem with assembly apart from triggers I knew wouldnt fit but had to try anyways. I will probably get a MVS when I get my stag done and they become more available. Could be a while though, at least their timelines seem much more realistic.
 
no-one special said:
100% agree!! To have to grind, sand, file of modify the aluminum parts at all should not be necessary on a $1000.00 receiver set, period.
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Grinding, sanding and filling is all on the owner because the TNA website spells it out,

Compatible with:

AR original parts and most handguards, pistol grips, barrels, handguards, triggers
AR-15/STANAG magazines
Some AR-15 aftermarket parts that mount to the receiver. This is a brand new product so some parts need to be test-fit before we'll know for sure.

I think most owner assumes, hopes and wishes that it’s mil-spec, but if you go into a purchase understanding that it’s not an AR then you will not be disappointed.
 
Sqr said:
Grinding, sanding and filling is all on the owner because the TNA website spells it out,

Compatible with:

AR original parts and most handguards, pistol grips, barrels, handguards, triggers
AR-15/STANAG magazines
Some AR-15 aftermarket parts that mount to the receiver. This is a brand new product so some parts need to be test-fit before we'll know for sure.

I think most owner assumes, hopes and wishes that it’s mil-spec, but if you go into a purchase understanding that it’s not an AR then you will not be disappointed.
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The whole "it's not an AR" thing is complete and utter BS. :jerkit:

Are you seriously trying to fool us into believing that MacCrapabee purposely set out to design a receiver set that was of a different spec than the parts that were commonly available for it. You know, the parts that all their customers would have to buy in order to complete this "not an AR".

Right from the start this POS was clearly marketed as a high end (insert sigh) receiver set that is compatible with all common AR15 parts except some drop in trigger pack assemblies.

I don't care what TNA says. Here's a little quote from the company that was initially involved in bringing this thing to market

Maccabee Defense SLR - Info site

We thought it might be easier to start a thread to tell you what we know than for you to read through the enormous threads of questions and complaints.

Here is what we know:

Maccabee Defense has submitted a prototype rifle to the RCMP for inspection, and they received a non restricted FRT for it.

The rifle uses standard AR15 parts other than the receiver assembly.

The receiver also accepts STANAG magazines

Receiver is contructed from 7075-T6 aluminum, finished with Type III hardcoat anodizing

Stripped receiver assembly weighs 1.369 lbs

Stripped receivers accept standard AR trigger components, some after market trigger kits fit and function, including Geissele, but we do not recommend Timney.

The rifle is not yet in production, and there is no production schedule for it right now, but it is expected to be available early in 2018.

The estimated retail price for a rifle is $2499The standard 5.56mm rifle will come with a 18.5" German made, cold hammer forged, match barrel.

These barrels will also be available separately for an estimated $445.

Maccabee Defense plans on selling the matched upper and lower receiver assemblies separately with an estimated retail price of $999.

Upper receivers will also be sold separately with an estimated price of $449
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What part of the statement in BOLD is so difficult for you to understand?????

But you keep on keepin' on there trooper :onCrack:


Me, I'll wait patiently for my MS receivers to arrive. Looking forward to that day so I can sell my "not an AR so it doesn't matter what spec it is" receiver set.
 
jiffx2781 said:
The whole "it's not an AR" thing is complete and utter BS. :jerkit:

Are you seriously trying to fool us into believing that MacCrapabee purposely set out to design a receiver set that was of a different spec than the parts that were commonly available for it. You know, the parts that all their customers would have to buy in order to complete this "not an AR".

Right from the start this POS was clearly marketed as a high end (insert sigh) receiver set that is compatible with all common AR15 parts except some drop in trigger pack assemblies.

I don't care what TNA says. Here's a little quote from the company that was initially involved in bringing this thing to market



What part of the statement in BOLD is so difficult for you to understand?????

But you keep on keepin' on there trooper :onCrack:


Me, I'll wait patiently for my MS receivers to arrive. Looking forward to that day so I can sell my "not an AR so it doesn't matter what spec it is" receiver set.
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If it’s such a disaster why not dump it now as I will quickly take it off of your hands. Why wait? I think some may be confused as I have never compare it to a MS receiver set only to point out its another option in the NR market. I will wait to pass judgment when my MS is completed.

By the way I will keep going on about how fine a set the “non restricted not an AR” SLR is.
 
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