Good starter accurate rifle?
- Thread starter Mr.IDontKnow
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Do you have a 4-500yard range near you? 4-500yds isn't too far for most larger centerfire rifles.
Still though, 100yds is a better start for a new shooter. Hell I still think you should get a .22 first and keep it at more like 25-50 yards to get yourself started.
There is no best bullet for long range. good results have been had with a number of 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm, .30, etc there is no one best cartridge.
Still though, 100yds is a better start for a new shooter. Hell I still think you should get a .22 first and keep it at more like 25-50 yards to get yourself started.
There is no best bullet for long range. good results have been had with a number of 6mm, 6.5mm, 7mm, .30, etc there is no one best cartridge.
READ some threads
Your question is vague there are to many variables and about 1,000,000 gun/caliber combinations that fit what you want.
Answer the following so we can help you better
1) What is your budget including Optics
2) How much experience shooting do you have
3) Are you recoil sensitive
4) Do you reload
Mr.IDontKnow
New member
!. Think $500 is good enough?
2. I have none, but going for some practice with a mentor sometime.
3. I don't think i can answer that now.
4. What do you mean by that? Still new
2. I have none, but going for some practice with a mentor sometime.
3. I don't think i can answer that now.
4. What do you mean by that? Still new
- Location
- Coquitlam, BC
Buy a bolt action .22LR and shoot the heck out of it. With a $500 budget, I would look for a Savage or a used CZ452, slap on a budget scope and have at 'er. Can't do much with $500 for a centrefire anyway..
Practice makes perfect. Best/cheapest way to do so is rimfire.
Practice makes perfect. Best/cheapest way to do so is rimfire.
mr. Idontknow
I know from your other thread that you are completely new to shooting sports and I welcome you to the forum and glad to have another person interested in shooting.
I really encourage you to go at the right pace and get yourself a .22 first before you think about going any further. You will be glad you did.
You sound like you are very interested which means that you will learn fast as if you are anything like me, you have an insatiable appetite to learn about what you really like doing.
Get your firearms licence paperwork in order and get yourself to a range, even if you don't own a gun yet. There are tons of people out there that would be happy to show a new guy the ropes, one of the best things about the firearms community.
I know from your other thread that you are completely new to shooting sports and I welcome you to the forum and glad to have another person interested in shooting.
I really encourage you to go at the right pace and get yourself a .22 first before you think about going any further. You will be glad you did.
You sound like you are very interested which means that you will learn fast as if you are anything like me, you have an insatiable appetite to learn about what you really like doing.
Get your firearms licence paperwork in order and get yourself to a range, even if you don't own a gun yet. There are tons of people out there that would be happy to show a new guy the ropes, one of the best things about the firearms community.
Mr.IDontKnow
New member
Want to give me a name for a savage model?
I too think a .223 Remington wouldn't be intimidating for a novice, and has the potential to get pushed really far with some skill, so it could provide Mr.IDontKnow with a tool to practice in the short and long term.
The only downside is that 223 ammunition would be more expensive than any of those rimfires...
The only downside is that 223 ammunition would be more expensive than any of those rimfires...
- Location
- Virden, MB
I recommend starting out with a rimfire.
Cheap way to start and you can shoot from daybreak to dawn for what it would cost to shoot factory 223 in 30 mins.
There are some really great rimfires in 22lr like CZ 452 or the Savage line up than you could get some great experience with and they are just as much fun to shoot. Shooting at 100 yards is like shooting a 223 at 300 or 400 yards and shooting at 200 yards is like shooting a 223 at 600 yards. You could learn a lot and have a blast at the same time. get some real wold experience and kill some gophers with it too.
Cheap way to start and you can shoot from daybreak to dawn for what it would cost to shoot factory 223 in 30 mins.
There are some really great rimfires in 22lr like CZ 452 or the Savage line up than you could get some great experience with and they are just as much fun to shoot. Shooting at 100 yards is like shooting a 223 at 300 or 400 yards and shooting at 200 yards is like shooting a 223 at 600 yards. You could learn a lot and have a blast at the same time. get some real wold experience and kill some gophers with it too.
- Location
- Coquitlam, BC
Any of the Mark II series will do you well.
Personally, I'd pony up a couple extra hundred and get the CZ, but that's just me
Shooting rimfire is DEFINITELY cheaper than centrefire.
Brick of 500 .22: $25~
If you don't reload, you can hardly get 10% of that with a centrefire.
Bro,
I would stroll down to the local gun shop and chat with the folks down there and see what you can get for your budget. Each store has startet packages that will get you to the range. Get out and have fun! Even cheap sporting rifles have a fun factor. You WILL learn from experience and it is the very best teacher... NOT internet forums.
Consider a few "isms" here....
-Learn to master short range before frustrating yourself with the many technical challenges of long range shooting!!!!!!!
..."Precision shooting" is a sub-specialty of shooting in which specialized equipment is needed. A typical off-the-shelf rifle will shoot anywhere between 1/2 - 1-1/2 inches at 100 yards under ideal conditions, with a good shooter, and using good ammo. Double the size of that group for every hundred yards.
A "precision rifle" with proper hand-loaded ammo customized to the gun will shoot groups that are limited only by the ability of the shooter and his scope.
-The "art" of precision shooting is an amalgam of shooting skills, reloading skills, High Quality purpose-built equipment and PRACTICE. Wanting to start shooting "precison" is tantamount to wanting to learn how to drive in a Formula 1 car.
-NO ONE FACTORY RIFLE SHOOTS BETTER THAN ANOTHER! Brand loyalty must be recognized for what it is, and the arguments in favor of one brand over another are irrelevent. - More money DOES NOT mean more accurate.
-rimfire is a cheap, fun and practical way to get into the whole shooting expereince. If you shoot at a range, it will almost certainly put you in touch with people that are shooting centerfire rifles and you will get a feel for what is and is not practical.
-When you have a really good idea in your OWN mind, of the differences between a .308, a .300 Winchester Magnum and a .223, then you will be ready to start shopping for a ceterfire rifle that will fit your needs.
Every round you put down range adds to your skill and your experience. .22 is often all you really need.
oh... Cost of 223 vs. 22 ammo? - about 20X more per round
I would stroll down to the local gun shop and chat with the folks down there and see what you can get for your budget. Each store has startet packages that will get you to the range. Get out and have fun! Even cheap sporting rifles have a fun factor. You WILL learn from experience and it is the very best teacher... NOT internet forums.
Consider a few "isms" here....
-Learn to master short range before frustrating yourself with the many technical challenges of long range shooting!!!!!!!
..."Precision shooting" is a sub-specialty of shooting in which specialized equipment is needed. A typical off-the-shelf rifle will shoot anywhere between 1/2 - 1-1/2 inches at 100 yards under ideal conditions, with a good shooter, and using good ammo. Double the size of that group for every hundred yards.
A "precision rifle" with proper hand-loaded ammo customized to the gun will shoot groups that are limited only by the ability of the shooter and his scope.
-The "art" of precision shooting is an amalgam of shooting skills, reloading skills, High Quality purpose-built equipment and PRACTICE. Wanting to start shooting "precison" is tantamount to wanting to learn how to drive in a Formula 1 car.
-NO ONE FACTORY RIFLE SHOOTS BETTER THAN ANOTHER! Brand loyalty must be recognized for what it is, and the arguments in favor of one brand over another are irrelevent. - More money DOES NOT mean more accurate.
-rimfire is a cheap, fun and practical way to get into the whole shooting expereince. If you shoot at a range, it will almost certainly put you in touch with people that are shooting centerfire rifles and you will get a feel for what is and is not practical.
-When you have a really good idea in your OWN mind, of the differences between a .308, a .300 Winchester Magnum and a .223, then you will be ready to start shopping for a ceterfire rifle that will fit your needs.
Every round you put down range adds to your skill and your experience. .22 is often all you really need.
oh... Cost of 223 vs. 22 ammo? - about 20X more per round
I recommend that you go to Reliable Gun ( a site sponsor ) in Vancouver - they have the best customer service in Vancouver and are likely the least intimidating. Try to go weekedays so someone has time to talk with you.
I stongly recommend you get a .22 rimfire with a scope and practice. If you have friends who have other rifles get them to show you theirs at a range so you can get a sense of what you like and what you don't but you really can't go wrong with a .22 bolt gun for starters.
Please don't think that the recommendation of a .22 is in anyway a negative. Many very experienced shooters still use a .22 for the all-important trigger time and it remains a great learning and practice tool for even the most experienced of shooters. I like the Savage as the factory accutrigger is the same as found on many of their other rifles so you can easily graduate from one to another.
I stongly recommend you get a .22 rimfire with a scope and practice. If you have friends who have other rifles get them to show you theirs at a range so you can get a sense of what you like and what you don't but you really can't go wrong with a .22 bolt gun for starters.
Please don't think that the recommendation of a .22 is in anyway a negative. Many very experienced shooters still use a .22 for the all-important trigger time and it remains a great learning and practice tool for even the most experienced of shooters. I like the Savage as the factory accutrigger is the same as found on many of their other rifles so you can easily graduate from one to another.
