Good starter accurate rifle?

I never thought a .22 caliber bolt action rifle was bad idea. I think its a a pretty good idea, since i don't got much to spend. You know any good bolt action rim fire gun at Reliable Gun that is right for me?
Tomochan said:
I recommend that you go to Reliable Gun ( a site sponsor ) in Vancouver - they have the best customer service in Vancouver and are likely the least intimidating. Try to go weekedays so someone has time to talk with you.

I stongly recommend you get a .22 rimfire with a scope and practice. If you have friends who have other rifles get them to show you theirs at a range so you can get a sense of what you like and what you don't but you really can't go wrong with a .22 bolt gun for starters.

Please don't think that the recommendation of a .22 is in anyway a negative. Many very experienced shooters still use a .22 for the all-important trigger time and it remains a great learning and practice tool for even the most experienced of shooters. I like the Savage as the factory accutrigger is the same as found on many of their other rifles so you can easily graduate from one to another.
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My opinion for what it's worth. Get yourself a quality .22 like a CZ 452 ($550 Ca plus taxes) with an aperture sight (Williams FP-CZ w/TK $85US, get the one with target knobs) and good 1907 (Turner 50" 'seconds' $35US) style sling. It might not be a cool as a centrefire with a scope and bipod, but what it will do is teach you the fundamentals of proper shooting technique (breathing, trigger control, sight picture, reading conditions). It's a little over your budget but it's a quality gun you won't regret spending the money on, plus gives you lots of cheap practice ammo. There's also no reason you can't shoot to 200 or even 300yds, if you learn to dope drop and drift with a .22 at those ranges a centrefire will be easy, and it's a lot of fun. A little later into it you can add a scope and bipod if you like, though you'll find shooting irons and slings much more rewarding. During that time you'll learn a lot more about guns and what shooting disclipline interests you most, then you can drop the big bucks on something you know will suit your needs and you'll use. All the while that .22 will hold it's appeal as a practice rifle for brushing up your skills, introducing someone else to the sport, taking friends shooting (on the cheap :)), or teaching your kids. A solid long term investment. There's a reason almost every shooter has at least one .22 in their safe, and the CZ is as solid as the come.

http://www.frontierfirearms.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=17_19_83_334&products_id=834
http://www.turnersling.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TS&Product_Code=NSS
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16314/Product/GROOVED_RECEIVER_FOOLPROOF
 
Isn't it easier to get a rifle with a scope already?
Gunslinger said:
My opinion for what it's worth. Get yourself a quality .22 like a CZ 452 ($550 Ca plus taxes) with an aperture sight (Williams FP-CZ w/TK $85US, get the one with target knobs) and good 1907 (Turner 50" 'seconds' $35US) style sling. It might not be a cool as a centrefire with a scope and bipod, but what it will do is teach you the fundamentals of proper shooting technique (breathing, trigger control, sight picture, reading conditions). It's a little over your budget but it's a quality gun you won't regret spending the money on, plus gives you lots of cheap practice ammo. There's also no reason you can't shoot to 200 or even 300yds, if you learn to dope drop and drift with a .22 at those ranges a centrefire will be easy, and it's a lot of fun. A little later into it you can add a scope and bipod if you like, though you'll find shooting irons and slings much more rewarding. During that time you'll learn a lot more about guns and what shooting disclipline interests you most, then you can drop the big bucks on something you know will suit your needs and you'll use. All the while that .22 will hold it's appeal as a practice rifle for brushing up your skills, introducing someone else to the sport, taking friends shooting (on the cheap :)), or teaching your kids. A solid long term investment. There's a reason almost every shooter has at least one .22 in their safe, and the CZ is as solid as the come.

http://www.frontierfirearms.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=17_19_83_334&products_id=834
http://www.turnersling.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TS&Product_Code=NSS
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16314/Product/GROOVED_RECEIVER_FOOLPROOF
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You ask sensible questions,grasshopper....

I suggest you go to your nearest range....hang out....talk...and maybe find some decent people who will let you 'squeeze a few off'....

presto!.....no money spent but yer way ahead in what you might want to spend the bucks on

.......you do 'have' a range', dontcha?
 
yeah im setting a time and other stuff with a mentor now.
Klunk said:
You ask sensible questions,grasshopper....

I suggest you go to your nearest range....hang out....talk...and maybe find some decent people who will let you 'squeeze a few off'....

presto!.....no money spent but yer way ahead in what you might want to spend the bucks on

.......you do 'have' a range', dontcha?
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Mr.IDontKnow said:
Isn't it easier to get a rifle with a scope already?
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If you like the scope than sure. Most quality rifles don't come in a package deal tho. If you like the gun and the optics go for it. Savage MarkII usually come in a package deal. If you can save money and put more into ammo and other equipment that is fine. You can always flip you rifle and scope later and upgrade. A properly maintained rifle shouldn't loose you money.

Don't buy a gun just because it comes with a scope. You might find that you don't like the scope or worse like the scope but not the rifle wearing it.
 
Do I really need a scope for 1-200 yards? Or iron sight good enough? Or it's how you like it?
MagnumPeanut said:
If you like the scope than sure. Most quality rifles don't come in a package deal tho. If you like the gun and the optics go for it. Savage MarkII usually come in a package deal. If you can save money and put more into ammo and other equipment that is fine. You can always flip you rifle and scope later and upgrade. A properly maintained rifle shouldn't loose you money.

Don't buy a gun just because it comes with a scope. You might find that you don't like the scope or worse like the scope but not the rifle wearing it.
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Mr.IDontKnow said:
Do I really need a scope for 1-200 yards? Or iron sight good enough? Or it's how you like it?
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In my view, iron sights can be excellent, provided they're an adjustable target type aperture sight. Otherwise, get a scope.
You can get some excellent scopes for reasonable prices. Falcon and Vortex are 2 names to consider.
 
Mr.IDontKnow said:
I got a question. :D You think i can shoot 100 yard with a savage mark II shoot with a .22 LR bullet and keep it's accuracy? *after some practice*
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Yes, but it will take practice. My .22 shooting is at 50m, and I think most people shoot that or less, but there are some very good shooters going to 100 and more. Definately doable, but start at closer distances and work your way up. I'd start at 25yds, see how that goes. That's certainly within iron sight distance.
 
I've only ever tried a counter-top demonstration model of the accutrigger, but I loved the feel. Very similar to the trigger on my .308 target rifle. The new savages come with them, and they are adjustable by the owner.
 
Can you give me few models?
stevebc said:
I've only ever tried a counter-top demonstration model of the accutrigger, but I loved the feel. Very similar to the trigger on my .308 target rifle. The new savages come with them, and they are adjustable by the owner.
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Accutriggers are the best thing about Savage rifles other than the prices in my opinion.
A good trigger that is adjustable is a MUST HAVE in any of my rifles and I think it's worth the extra money because if you have a trigger that is hard to squeeze you'll move the rifle each time you shoot because of the effort involved. A light trigger is such a big help with accuracy.
 
Mr.IDontKnow said:
I got a question. :D You think i can shoot 100 yard with a savage mark II shoot with a .22 LR bullet and keep it's accuracy? *after some practice*
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Everyone's definition of "accuracy" is different, YMMV. With match ammo on a GOOD day, my Krico gets around 1 MOA ten-shot groups.

It is VERY unlikely a Savage can replicate that kind of accuracy consistently, even with the best ammo.

More practical to shoot a .22 at 50 yards IMO when starting out.
 
why has no one

just told him to go onto wholesale sports.com and look up guns for a couple of hours,
silly silly post where is the research or search funcitons,
THEN WE CAN HELP, not sure if he ever took a safety course, and read any books, are we the firearms kindergarden school.

flame suit on and activated for those who cannot see the light

Jeff
 
If you want a highly accurate rimfire you can always try .17M2-you can still find savage or marlin bolt actions around-more long range fun then a .22 and near twice the range of the .22:ar15:
 
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