Good Starter BP

For eastwind: no i dont. I need to get one though. Any suggestions on a good one?

I would also suggest getting a 50 cal for sure, I just have a 45 because thats all they had for the price, but it does the trick on deer you just dont have as much selection for bullets.
 
Duck, we all changed our 700's to use 209 primers and none of us have had a miss fire with either #11 or 209. Make sure you fire a primer off to remove any oil in the nipple before loading for the hunt.
 
starter BP wanted

:runaway: :runaway: I started off with a safari arms sidelock 50 cal, then a 50 cal knight,58 cal kodiak double rifle,54 cal kahnke,54 T/C side lock and now have a 50 encore with PRbullets 250ACP conversion ign system. I just bought a green mountain 50cal barrel with a leatherwood 6x malcolm scope...What iam trying to say is what ever you start out with you will be hooked they are lots of fun.:)
after all that being said I would start off with a T/C 50 cal side lock and shoot a maxi hunter conical and start off with goex 2f and have fun, if you want hotter ign try a musket cap:D

just my 2 cents worth
 
I have a T/C Omega; I highly recommend them if you are looking for an accurate BP rifle that is fairly easy to clean. It has shot to about 1" for three shots; I have a new powder now so I am experimenting again. It cleans easy enough: you drop the breach plug out and drop it into a bit of solvent, and then pull a cleaner soked bore snake through a couple times and it is pretty much done. I think it takes about 15-20 minutes from start to gun cabinet.

The only thing I would recommend if you buy one is to go with a laminated stock; the tupperware stocks are kind of flimsy IMO. I just got mine back from Ian Robertson where he made me a fiberglass stock for it. What an improvement over the original!
 
Never had a break open one, as mentioned in my previous posts. But I do know i spent an entire day out in the rain with my bolt and my gun still fired at the end of the day. So I think the only other thing i could have tried is submerging it, but i didnt think that was a good diea.
 
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This may open up a bigger can of worms but what are the pros and cons of a bolt inline vs a break open inline? Is it personal preference. Aside from cleaning the unit is one more weather proof then the other?
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Break actions tend to be more weather-resilient (sealed primer), little (if any) primer spray on your scope, easier to clean. No bolt means that the barrel can be longer (26-28"), but the overall length is still comparable to that of a tradtional bolt action style with a typical 24" barrel

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To add even more worms to the can ;) Gobles have a Thompson Center 50 cal perc, good + for $189.00 :dancingbanana: or Ellwod Epps has a T/C 50 cal for $279.00 with a Green Mtn Barrel (1 in 60 twist :D ) the previous owner has decorated it brass tacks :( but big hairy deal IMO as long as the bores are OK those are steals.T/c has a lifetime warranty as long as the serial # isn't prefixed with K (kit rifle)
Cheers nessy.
 
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Here is some very typical loads for my sidekick...I practice with no swabing between first and second shot...the pic with the 350 and 450 were shot after the 300 dc just to see where they would hit without scope change they both has 100grT7 FFF for powder...the 3 2 shot groups were all 350 with 100grs of T7FFF just some I kept from different times at range last year...couple of deer taken with sidekick.
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With all due respect to the traditionalists the only way to go for a hunting gun is Inline bolt. They are accurate, dependable, and relatively easy to maintain. If you want you can even go smokeless with one of the new savages.

My personal choice is the Knight disc rifles. The new versions with the various gimmics do not impress me. The Knight discs have the power and accuracy needed to reach out to 200 yds and are easy to shoot with a good scope. 120 gr of pyrodex FS ( don't like those pellets) behind a saboted 300 gr 45 cal XTP and you are good to go. Buy the way I went hunting with a fellow with a beautiful flintlock that would hit milk jugs at 100 yds all day at the range. The weather was a bit cold and snowy. Lets just say my gun went boom when it had to and his did not.
 
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Had my flinter out today; no snow but close to freezing out and no misfires :>)
More to the point; I absolutely cannot understand why eastern provinces have muzzle loading seasons if people predominantly use inlines. If there are enough deer for an extra few weeks of hunting then just continue the regular season for that long. I don't see any difference between a modern inline and my ruger #1 inline with the .270 breach plug.

cheers mooncoon
 
The difference is in the speed of the second shot. Inline or traditional its one shot and even then inlines don't even come close to centerfire capabilities. Muzzle loading is muzzle loading. I have great respect for the traditional approach and applaud those who do it. What I cannot aggree with is the concept that inlines should be excluded from BP seasons.
 
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