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I finally figured out how to make my timer work. It gives me a random delay then a beep.

I am drawing a 1911, clicking off the safety and firing an aimed shot. What is a reasonable time for a beginner?

I am running around 1.5 to 1.8 sec.
 
1.5 is a great start, work on consistency and then grind your pars down. 1.0s is very very good, I have seen some get down to 0.7 but not with good accuracy.
 
Most of the draws in this video were in the .80 range but since it was with a Safariland 6004 and stock Glock the times might be a bit off....
http://youtu.be/PKimzlHXk14

1.5 for a start is good. These days I see a lot of draws around 1.9-2.0 from most of the people I get on courses, though we try to get that down. It used to be that back when the BB course was at its best you had to be able to draw and put 2 shots on a target at 7m in 2.0 seconds. It's watered down a lot now so a 2.0 first shot is perfectly adequate.
 
I still don't have a draw under 1.0s, but I don't think it's a deal breaker. Having a 3 second draw is a killer, but if that's what it takes to get a good grip, a good sight picture and a solid first shot then it will be do a lot more the rest of the course of fire than trying to go for a super fast draw and hitting a C or D.
 
Draw times should be measured to an A hit at a given distance. Just getting it out and getting it to go bang doesn't cut it.
That being said, what the hell Hungry B?! You can't draw under a second? Dear god man what do you do in the winter? Get rocking those draws in dry fire!...lol
 
PapaHotel01 said:
Draw times should be measured to an A hit at a given distance. Just getting it out and getting it to go bang doesn't cut it.
That being said, what the hell Hungry B?! You can't draw under a second? Dear god man what do you do in the winter? Get rocking those draws in dry fire!...lol
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Hey Pat, what are ideal/optimal draw par times for say, 7/10/15/18/25yds for a controlled pair on target?
 
Well ideal depends on your ability to hit an A.
For me, right now:
7m - .9
10m - 1.0
15m - 1.2
20m - 1.3
25m - 1.4
50m - 1.7
These are ideal, usually I am about .05 above these times in practice.
 
PapaHotel01 said:
1.5 for a start is good. These days I see a lot of draws around 1.9-2.0 from most of the people I get on courses, though we try to get that down. It used to be that back when the BB course was at its best you had to be able to draw and put 2 shots on a target at 7m in 2.0 seconds. It's watered down a lot now so a 2.0 first shot is perfectly adequate.
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Thanks. This is useful. I have been practicing indoors, firing blanks. I will try real ammo at 7 yards and see if i can get two good hits in under 2 seconds. I think this might be where I am now, or close to it.

I have no expectations of being an ace, but do aspire to being "competent". I can get hits with aimed fire with no difficulty. The challenge is doing it against the clock. In CQB I tend to run out of time. I have to shoot better-faster.
 
PapaHotel01 said:
Draw times should be measured to an A hit at a given distance. Just getting it out and getting it to go bang doesn't cut it.
That being said, what the hell Hungry B?! You can't draw under a second? Dear god man what do you do in the winter? Get rocking those draws in dry fire!...lol
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No, my first shot to a 10 yard target is around 1.2, and my draw to a 7 yard target is about 1.1. I'm slow. I feel shame.:p
 
In most stages a 'fast draw' doesn't really have any effect on your score.

The majority of stages seem to require movement - pivot and draw, get up from a chair or bed etc, run from XX to another position - before the first rounds are fired. The classic ' facing down range with hands relaxed at sides' is relatively rare and is the only time a truly fast draw offers any advantage: and even then only if targets are visible from the starting position.

If you can draw and engage your first target in under 2 seconds you will be running with the pack on most stages.

John
 
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Hey John,
Up range?
Sure you never meant down range?
As for the first shot the timer will help but I've always felt its grip first, sight picture, break the shot and get an A.
Get good then worry about getting fast, a loose grip with poor accuracy will not win the day.
While I would not be concerned with the time I do see the benefit of practicing with a timer. Some people stall at the beep, practicing with a random start should not effect your primary goal of a good grip and a solid first shot but it should condition you that the beep means go.
Your practicing so your already on the right track IMO.
 
My draw to an A is about 1.4 @ 7yards and about 1.6 @ 10 yards.

I started off at 3 @ 10 yards then to 2 for about a year and it's been going down a bit this year.

Timers are good to have and be comfortable with.
 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the single most effective way to cut time off their draw to first shot time.
 
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