Got boned by the US DOS
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- Location
- London, Ontario
Eotech doesn't have any repair centers up here?
If not, it's pretty stupid how it will only screw the consumer out of a product.
If not, it's pretty stupid how it will only screw the consumer out of a product.
I sent it to police ordnance. The ironic thing is that I sent an Eotech 553 and a Trijicon TA31F together to Police Ordnance for repairs. The Trijicon went over and back lickty-split, but the Eotech got held up. Nature of the game it seems.
The problem I believe is the 553 was never approved for export out of the US , I would be contacting the seller and finding out how it arrived in Canada ,As well you might want to Contact the US DOS and find out if there is a way to retrieve your property.I think as with all controlled export products entering the US for repair like scopes you have to go thru the whole 3 ring circus paperwork program as if you were bringing in a new scope into Canada IE: import permit from DFAIC and export permit from US Stae Dept
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It's a good thing they are cracking down on these scopes etc crossing the border into Canada. It takes the pressure off the smugglers bringing in cocaine, guns, etc. After all, it is a lot safer to hassle a guy like you than it is to actually go out and chase real criminals. At least three well-paid bureaucrats will be employed just over this case alone!! (Sarcasm switch off)
TA31F is approved for export but eotech 553 is NOT.
If the eotech is sold by PO - yes, that's their responsibility. If it is not, then NO.
If you want warranty service, you need to be careful what you are buying and where it comes from.
If the eotech is sold by PO - yes, that's their responsibility. If it is not, then NO.
If you want warranty service, you need to be careful what you are buying and where it comes from.
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The problem arises on the the US side is when an item is given a NSN for those that aren't military it means NATO Stock Number it becomes a restricted or controlled export item this means it can be exported as along as the US State Dept approves the documents . Not all items given a NSN are under rigid controll but one would think otherwise but our sport has the largest segment goods that fall under the ITAR and State Dept control
The US State Dept records all the serial# and is referenced on all export documentation if an Item was illegally shipped out of the US and is being shipped back out it will be siezed by US State Dept .It is not about punishing lawful purchasers it is to stop illegal export of controlled goods . The Controls were designed to stop the flow of military technologies from the US into War zones that face the US and her Allies
The US State Dept records all the serial# and is referenced on all export documentation if an Item was illegally shipped out of the US and is being shipped back out it will be siezed by US State Dept .It is not about punishing lawful purchasers it is to stop illegal export of controlled goods . The Controls were designed to stop the flow of military technologies from the US into War zones that face the US and her Allies
For the record, I did ask Police Ordnance if they had the appropirate measures in place to both import and export this particular optic without hassle. They said that everything was greenlight. Why whould I doubt them? Besides, I'd be shocked if there weren't Eotech 553s being exported into Canada for LEO/Mil use. So there's really no need to criticize my decission to send this out to be fixed.
Afterall, if an item wasn't exported out of the US illegally, why would the US DOS give Eotech grief for doing warranty repair? I think Eotech is just as annoyed about this as I and Police Ordnance are.
Afterall, if an item wasn't exported out of the US illegally, why would the US DOS give Eotech grief for doing warranty repair? I think Eotech is just as annoyed about this as I and Police Ordnance are.
- Location
- London, Ontario
I honestly think these laws are just a god dam mess. They should allow people to send optics into the US for service regardless, but to purchase items then that I can understand.
God what a bunch of asshats who thought up these laws.
Hope you get the unit back man, good luck!
God what a bunch of asshats who thought up these laws.
Hope you get the unit back man, good luck!
- Location
- Sudbury, On
I think the whole thing over optics is BS.
Yea. Like giving the Taliban optics will suddenly make them take over the world. Nevermind the AK-47's and RPG's they have stockpiled.
Yea. Like giving the Taliban optics will suddenly make them take over the world. Nevermind the AK-47's and RPG's they have stockpiled.
- Location
- Kawartha Lakes, Ontario
Another irony is that the US seems to be tracking every 'scope going to Canada, but loses track of hundreds of thousands of weapons supplied to Iraqi and Afghan forces. What a pile of steaming horses**t.
Yes there are EO-Tech 553's have been imported for LEA and Military but you must realize that US State Dept will only allow sales to end users IE:Military and LEA and they must sign an end user agreement this agreement states that the user LEA or Military can only dispose of the item to any other LEA or Military agency with in the that country.They cannot dispose of the item by putting it hands of the general public .IE: selling it off to the general public
The issue is that when a scope is repaired that has entered the US from another country it simply is not shipped back to the Dealer /Owner at completion of repairs, The Repair center must fill out export documents with the US State Dept this includes Model and Serial number these are entered into the State dept data base and cross referenced against approved export permits if it gets flagged the export permit is denied . Many reasons for an Export permit denial exist Restricted Item, Illegal Export, Foreign Country Status has changed.
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This is beyond my single case though. Allow me to quote what was explain in my last correspondence:
By the sound of it, this problem is bigger than little insignificant me in Owen Sound having a model 553. It sounds like Eotech is having bigger issues.
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