Yeah I looked at the SPS. I do like how short the barrel is. It would be handy in the thick bush. The remington I had had issues with the angles the tapped holes in the reciever were drilled at. I have a few savages and they are amazing. I am just trying to break it up a little though. The $$ at the end of school sure is nice eh? I am finishing up my 4th year so I get a nice big trade completion grant of $2200 plus another $2000 back when I do my taxes, I am pumped!
Got my eye on 2 hunting rifles need help making a decision
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Yeah I looked at the SPS. I do like how short the barrel is. It would be handy in the thick bush. The remington I had had issues with the angles the tapped holes in the reciever were drilled at. I have a few savages and they are amazing. I am just trying to break it up a little though. The $$ at the end of school sure is nice eh? I am finishing up my 4th year so I get a nice big trade completion grant of $2200 plus another $2000 back when I do my taxes, I am pumped!
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I was set on the model 70 until hearing all the terrible things about barrel fluting. Some guys with the model 70 fluted barrel are noticing that the rifling wears faster inside the barrel where the flutes are compared to the thicker parts. So a fluted barrel is out of the question now. I will look at the browning X bolt VS tikka senario from here on in. The model 70 is dead to me now. Plus I have read some pretty terrible reviews of the new model 70.
canadaman30
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Savage weather warrior with the accutrigger and accustock less money better gun IMO
I'd go for the new Winchester Model 70. New rifles are produced in the FN plant in SC on state of the art machinery; so QC should be top notch and the quality of the finished product should be much higher than the last few years of Model 70 production that came out of the old USRAC/Winchester Plant in New Haven.
The Tikka T3 is a cheap feeling rifle. Too much plastic for my taste. Not saying they can't shoot, they do, but if I wanted one, I'd look around for an older model that was still built with real steel and wood, or go for the more pricey SAKO cousin.
The Tikka T3 is a cheap feeling rifle. Too much plastic for my taste. Not saying they can't shoot, they do, but if I wanted one, I'd look around for an older model that was still built with real steel and wood, or go for the more pricey SAKO cousin.
Yeah I am not a big fan of the feel of the tikka either but it in the end is just a feeling. It is strong and well made. As for quality I have handled a few of the new winchester model 70's and the nice ones are nice, but there is still some QC issues. One I was handling at a gun shop here in town had the stock touching the barrel, anouther had a big gash in the inside of the receiver where the bolt slides in and out. I think all the new literature on the web points out that quality control is better now at the new FN plan only because QC was so bad before. I have looked long and hard at a ton of new model 70's and lots of them still have very basic issues slipping through quality control in my opinion. I am admitily not a tikka fan in terms of feel but I have yet to see a real lemon with my own eyes.
canadaman30
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Take a look at the older (10years or so) Tikka M-595 and you will see the huge down hill slide in Tikka quality in the guns their building now.
I don't really see what all the fuss is with the Tikka feeling "cheap".
If by cheap feeling you mean light (as in not heavy) I will agree with that. It has a composite stock, so of course when you rapp on it with your knuckle it won't sound like a solid wood one does.
I have taken my Varmint out in +32 C and also in -25 C, and I haven't had a single issue with it in any way. If it was "cheap" then surely the extreme weather would have brought it to light.
I will say that the x bolt does feel more fancy than the Tikka by far, and may suit your taste more, but it does cost more money in the end for nice to have things.
If by cheap feeling you mean light (as in not heavy) I will agree with that. It has a composite stock, so of course when you rapp on it with your knuckle it won't sound like a solid wood one does.
I have taken my Varmint out in +32 C and also in -25 C, and I haven't had a single issue with it in any way. If it was "cheap" then surely the extreme weather would have brought it to light.
I will say that the x bolt does feel more fancy than the Tikka by far, and may suit your taste more, but it does cost more money in the end for nice to have things.
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Winchester all the way. The Tikka is overrated and too much plastic. Plastic belongs on toys, not guns 
Safeties- 2 position on the Tikka, 3 on the Model 70. Not a big deal if you aren't a retard
I agree. Left hand on the fore end. Right hand works the bolt.
Plus I am sure you have heard of a guy (I have) that clicked a 3 position safety only 1 click forward. Then missed his buck.
I top load my Tikka at the range all the time. What exactly is the big deal?
You cannot top load the clip. But have you ever needed to in the field?
The tikka stock is not pretty. But the point of impact never changes on mine. Robertson makes very nice stocks for them. I just put some grip tape under the fore end and grip. Works good.
The originator mentioned a tikka in camo I would spent the extra $100 or whatever on glass.
### appeal??? WTF
If you mean good looking I do not spend much time looking at my tikka 30 06.
It has a good scope (2.5 x 8 VX3) and my hand loads group at .75"
With 7 big game animals down I know what it can do in the field. And that matters most to me. I got a nicely stocked cooper rifle and a 1960 built smith model 17 - 2
But these do not go in the bush.
### appeal??? Like being cool and impressing people.
Waste of time. My grandmother at the end of her days made a real point of teaching me something. She said it ain't what you got, in life it is what you do.
This latest M 70 is new and gets it's day in the sun. Heck I remember when the "new browning A bolt" got all the attention.
The tikka clip. I like the way it jumps right out with a push of the button.
And how fits home with a firm click.
Losing it? Well do you carry a spare GPS and a spare set of keys?
On the indented part of the clip I put pieces of reflective hard hat sticker.
Case it got dropped at night.
cheers
I agree. Left hand on the fore end. Right hand works the bolt.
Plus I am sure you have heard of a guy (I have) that clicked a 3 position safety only 1 click forward. Then missed his buck.
I top load my Tikka at the range all the time. What exactly is the big deal?
You cannot top load the clip. But have you ever needed to in the field?
The tikka stock is not pretty. But the point of impact never changes on mine. Robertson makes very nice stocks for them. I just put some grip tape under the fore end and grip. Works good.
The originator mentioned a tikka in camo I would spent the extra $100 or whatever on glass.
### appeal??? WTF
If you mean good looking I do not spend much time looking at my tikka 30 06.
It has a good scope (2.5 x 8 VX3) and my hand loads group at .75"
With 7 big game animals down I know what it can do in the field. And that matters most to me. I got a nicely stocked cooper rifle and a 1960 built smith model 17 - 2
But these do not go in the bush.
### appeal??? Like being cool and impressing people.
Waste of time. My grandmother at the end of her days made a real point of teaching me something. She said it ain't what you got, in life it is what you do.
This latest M 70 is new and gets it's day in the sun. Heck I remember when the "new browning A bolt" got all the attention.
The tikka clip. I like the way it jumps right out with a push of the button.
And how fits home with a firm click.
Losing it? Well do you carry a spare GPS and a spare set of keys?
On the indented part of the clip I put pieces of reflective hard hat sticker.
Case it got dropped at night.
cheers
did some surfing and found this...
Third Time Is The Charm: THE WINCHESTER MODEL 70
Guns Magazine, Oct, 2001 by Dave Anderson
This legendary rifle has been produced in three distinct versions, and its current incarnation may just be the best yet.
Winchester's Model 70 bolt action rifle has been in production for some 65 years. More correctly Winchester has produced rifles under the Model 70 designation for 65 years. The rifle itself has gone through three major and many minor revisions.
The rifle itself has gone through three major and many minor revisions. WTF...
And this was written in 2001.
So they up and changed it again
Look here the word new is written over and over.
http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/category.asp?family=001C
If the M 70 is so good how come they keep changing it
Third Time Is The Charm: THE WINCHESTER MODEL 70
Guns Magazine, Oct, 2001 by Dave Anderson
This legendary rifle has been produced in three distinct versions, and its current incarnation may just be the best yet.
Winchester's Model 70 bolt action rifle has been in production for some 65 years. More correctly Winchester has produced rifles under the Model 70 designation for 65 years. The rifle itself has gone through three major and many minor revisions.
The rifle itself has gone through three major and many minor revisions. WTF...
And this was written in 2001.
So they up and changed it again
Look here the word new is written over and over.
http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/category.asp?family=001C
If the M 70 is so good how come they keep changing it
Third Time Is The Charm: THE WINCHESTER MODEL 70
Guns Magazine, Oct, 2001 by Dave Anderson
This legendary rifle has been produced in three distinct versions, and its current incarnation may just be the best yet.
Winchester's Model 70 bolt action rifle has been in production for some 65 years. More correctly Winchester has produced rifles under the Model 70 designation for 65 years. The rifle itself has gone through three major and many minor revisions.
The rifle itself has gone through three major and many minor revisions. WTF...
And this was written in 2001.
So they up and changed it again
Look here the word new is written over and over.
http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/category.asp?family=001C
If the M 70 is so good how come they keep changing it
It's like TIDE detrergent. It's been new and improved every year for the last 50 years!
