Got my first milsurp !

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Finally bit it and bought a SVT-40, an Izhevsk 1940 production rifle which i got with a blued bayonet & scabbard (hey why not !) that came from the same city ! After removing the cosmoline from the metal parts (& surface of the stock) it almost looks like a brand new gun, no rust at all and the bore looks shinny and the rifling shows its presence ! It aches to fire again for sure after all these years ! :dancingbanana:

With semi-complete instructions gathered on the net, this is one tough thing to take down on first time, add the baked/dried/jampacks of cosmoline and you got some serious headache; along removing *&"?$?%&/" bolt cover and the dreaded overscrewed cosmojammed cross pin screw (took an hour to take down, 40 mins just for the scew got scared ok ?) and i had to figure the cartridge trick to hold the *&"?$?%&/" bolt cover to put in back in the receiver rails. (rear spring guide snaped skin off my thumb and got really pissed by that point) :mad:

Here is a pic
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And another one, highlighted this time for a better sight
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When i ordered it, i though it would need stripper clips, to reload by the real way, but original mosin-nagant stripper clips are quite scarce and many repro do not follow the dimensions or correct angles of folding, but i looked at numrich ones (and bought a few) and they looked much like late production ones with a sorta brass look (they said its steel, in the white) but unlike most repro they seemed to have the sharp angles needed to hold the rims of the casings, here i got a pair of pics for your own visual inspection....

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They all fit the guide quite well on my svt, as soon as i'll get ammunition i'll issue a review on this hardware and maybe stock up on these pieces.


I also need your advice, i never touched nor seen a reloading press but i really want to get into that hobby mostly for the economy that it brings along with better accuracy possibilities, starting with the 7.62x54R... I used to read that svt's don't like too heavy bullets (say its too hard for the rifle), but there's not much .310 to .312 jacketed bullets that weight around the 150 grains d-ball of the era... But i also read about few shooters that used heavier bullets (i've seen up to 200 grains and working good) and all needed was a lower gas setting, so is any of this true ? What would be a too heavy bullet ? One bullet that seems really nice to me in that panel of size along with great performance possibilities would be this one http://www.sierrabullets.com/index.cfm?section=bullets&page=bc&submit=1&stock_num=2315&bullettype=0 the 174gr HPBT SMK if bore size correctly could it be a possible choice ? Or should i use a lighter one by fear of blowing up my gun ? Or switch to 150 grains .308 bullets and pray for accuracy ? :confused:
 
Hornady makes a 174g FMJ for the .303 that should work really well.
Nice rifle, which dealer did it come from?
Read up on cleaning for corrosive ammo if you plan on buying any of the cheap surplus.......
Enjoy the new toy!
 
Damn, nice rifle! The stock on mine is banged up but the bore is scrubbing out ok. Mine's a complete mix-match of parts though :(

Where did ya get it? :)

Did you totally disassemble the bolt to clean out the cosmo?
 
Hitzy said:
Hornady makes a 174g FMJ for the .303 that should work really well.
Nice rifle, which dealer did it come from?
Read up on cleaning for corrosive ammo if you plan on buying any of the cheap surplus.......
Enjoy the new toy!

You're right on hornady, i also noted this on my searches for bullet possibilities. I just used sierra as an example. Yet i'd like to know about that bullet weight mystery...

The gun came from P&S militaria

I've read a bit around corrosive stuff, ways to get rid of the salts and won't touch any ammo of that kind before i get used to shoot & clean this rifle correctly. But after that :D
 
TheIndifferent1 said:
Did you totally disassemble the bolt to clean out the cosmo?

Couldn't figure how to remove the extractor and didn't tried to punch the firing pin retainer out, but i let it dip in varsol for some time (seemed to work too) Only the stock needs a complete internal cosmoline removal, the surface feels a little oily to the touch but not sticky as it used to be. It is a little dark in some area (cosmo and oil i'm sure) and a ding or two but its real fine overall !
 
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John Sukey said:
You will be real popular with the guys on either side of you at the range, NOT;) The muzzle blast from that brake is nasty.

Seconding this, my friends all move away from me when I break out THE BEAST. I think the only thing more obnoxious is the Mosin-Nagant M44.
 
Your SVT looks in fantastic condition, it can't have seen a lot of use.

There are pleanty of bullets to choose from in .311,you will have no trouble finding them I shoot 150 grn hornadys in my .303.
 
John Sukey said:
You will be real popular with the guys on either side of you at the range, NOT;) The muzzle blast from that brake is nasty.

Well, it may have its use, i won't have to apologize as often for brass-headshots on other shooters when i'll forget to but the shield next to me :rolleyes:

Spencer said:
Your SVT looks in fantastic condition, it can't have seen a lot of use.

Thats hard to tell, being an arsenal refinished it may have a few part swaped from the originals, those electropencils forcematch are confusing, just look at the muzzle extension, its a late type but the gun is from 1940... Who knows maybe Ivan whom my rifle was issued back in WW2 took care of it besides wacking someone's head with the brake ? :owned: Otherwise i appreciate it !

Thanks for your imputs, i'll make a list of the reloading hardware i'm going to need, i should be fully equiped by summer time. This gun is tight, barrel looks real good, so does the gun itself, damn with a good "homebrew" this could kick ass ! :sniper: I'll order some Igman off districorp ASAP to figure if can make it fire, again and again and again and aga.... After this, if the brass is fine, this could be used for a future reloading session ! Future sure looks interesting...
 
2nd phase internal cleaning and UuH ?

Today, i've done a second cleaning run on my gun, took everything down, removed all the remaining cosmoline from the internal parts including the barrel, then i oiled everything and put back together. Only to look at a MUCH better looking gun and of course the bolt carrier now slides perfectly on its rails ! :D

To clean the metal parts I used my shotgun & choke tube cleaner, blasted at the things to clean, scrubed with a nylon brush after a minute then wiped the stuff off. Result on the towel was quite nasty but the metal looked perfect ! I carried on then something looked strange, i had dark-purple spots :confused: on my towels approching near the rear sight, then when i wiped the cleaner off the sight assembly, what i though bluing went off by soft strips! :eek: I got real scared and it ended with that result (highlighted picture to show differences between colors easier)
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Just compare the piston rod and the sight base, not much bluing there it seems... Much of this side plus the front of the adjustment tab look like that, appart from the obvious pitting spot in the forward part of the base. The "bluing" that was present before looked darker than the rest of the rifle parts... The cleaning rod had a large spot like this, sort of black looking coating stuff, i could scrape it off with my finger nails... My guess is that the sight base rusted, arsenal sand it a little then applied paint looking much alike the rest of the metal parts (which dripped on the barrel then on the cleaning rod), then whatever happened before it landed in my hands... That paint stuff seem to be softened by the choke tube cleaner (it says its harms paints, plastics & wood), it was quite easy to remove it afterwards with the towel. The "clean" look only appears if you look closely at 90 degrees, so i guess there is some real bluing left on it... My question here : Did i screwed up ? Or i partly unscrewed some s**tty rearsenal job ? Other than that detail the gun look better than ever.

Only need ammo now...:cool:
 
toya said:
My question here : Did i screwed up ? Or i partly unscrewed some s**tty rearsenal job ? Other than that detail the gun look better than ever.

Only need ammo now...:cool:
Did you screw up? No, you found someone else's shortcut. It might be original from the arsenal for reissue to soldiers, or done later when put into storage. Any one's guess.

I have used a black paint pen on some bare spots on guns. It goes on like a felt marker, needs a tiny bit of polishing to remove the outside ring where the paint gathers up (surface tension I think is the physics term). There are cold bluing solutions, but I found they are too much work for not much production.

Is the breechblock carrier sort of a plum reddish colour, and are there small laser engraved proof marks? It yes, it is one of about 300 Jose Reis imported about 4 yrs ago from Ukraine. The proofhouse is German.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
Is the breechblock carrier sort of a plum reddish colour, and are there small laser engraved proof marks? It yes, it is one of about 300 Jose Reis imported about 4 yrs ago from Ukraine. The proofhouse is German.

The Carrier is indeed of plum colour, but for the proof marks... There are a lot scattered on the gun, they look more like stamped than laser engraved to me, but i'll examine more closely next time i'll take it down. Where these special marks look like ? Do They have particular places to be found ?

And thanks for your imput on my special edition two-tone rear sight, i just got worried that i damaged it or something :bangHead:

Unsub said:
The Izhmash arsenal is still going strong and has a neat website.
They are making the hundred series AK's there I belive.

You're right, as most of the ex-soviet weapon/ammunition making factories i believe, i think many just went to private property by 90's.
 
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