Got My First Rifle!!!! Couple Questions!!!!

Try this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxlHTGyPhm0
they explain pretty clear how to sight in rifle.

Good Luck with your new rifle

awsome vid, thanks man!


Nice choice on the shotgun- they're fun and I find that they are very reliable

What're you hunting for? What bullet weights? Generally 2" at 100m is a safe bet.

yea, i love that shotgun man. i'm hunting for deer/moose, i haven't really picked an ammunition yet, i just bought some cheapo 30-06 federal powershok 180 grain. it seems a lot of people on this site use it and find it to be reliable for a cheap round.


So what is your home club?
Does it have ranges at 100, 200 and/or 300?
You do not indicate where you live.
Italiam Sports have applications for various rifle ranges that cater to various disciplines.

i'm at the Port Coquitlam range on Burke Mountain, PoCo District Fishing & Hunting Club. It has ranges up to 200 metres for sure, i don't think there's anything further there.

peace
 
hehe, yeah. bought my 870 express magnum used, probably put 12 cases through it- clays, gophers etc and i've had 3 hard extractions- all cause people were pulling back on the action as they fired and jammed it..... retards.

as far as bullet weights go, simply, a heavy bullet drops faster. for the most part, just go to the website's and check it out

Now, assuming 100yard zero
Those powershok 180gr you said you picked up- drop 4.2 inches at 200yrd
Powershok 150gr will drop 3.6 at 200
just demonstrating my point......... have your target loads (i use rem 150gr FMJ- they're cheap) and for my hunting loads have a 180gr hornady spitzer interlocks. I ALWAYS go and re-zero once its hunting season- never hurts.

since its your first rifle, grab 4 or 5 boxes of cheapy ammo, go to the range, dial in, then just plink until you feel totally comfortable with the rifle and its recoil- might be a lil uncomfortable for the first couple trips

cheers
Matt
 
hehe, yeah. bought my 870 express magnum used, probably put 12 cases through it- clays, gophers etc and i've had 3 hard extractions- all cause people were pulling back on the action as they fired and jammed it..... retards.

as far as bullet weights go, simply, a heavy bullet drops faster. for the most part, just go to the website's and check it out

Now, assuming 100yard zero
Those powershok 180gr you said you picked up- drop 4.2 inches at 200yrd
Powershok 150gr will drop 3.6 at 200
just demonstrating my point......... have your target loads (i use rem 150gr FMJ- they're cheap) and for my hunting loads have a 180gr hornady spitzer interlocks. I ALWAYS go and re-zero once its hunting season- never hurts.

since its your first rifle, grab 4 or 5 boxes of cheapy ammo, go to the range, dial in, then just plink until you feel totally comfortable with the rifle and its recoil- might be a lil uncomfortable for the first couple trips

cheers
Matt

thanks for that info man, that sucks on the hard extractions, but i wudn't trade my 870 for another shotty, it's just too fun!

anybody have recommendations for a different type of ammunition that is cheap to buy?

peace
 
i'm gonna sight this ##### in tomorrow boys and girls! i'm considering getting one of those vise's. if wanstall's has one for 50 bucks or less that is decent i'll cop one.

peace and thanks all!
 
as far as bullet weights go, simply, a heavy bullet drops faster. for the most part, just go to the website's and check it out

That's wrong.
A Heavy bullet drops at the same rate as a light one, Gravity has the same acceleration regardless of weight. The trajectory is the affected thing. Closer to the muzzle, a lighter bullet has a flatter trajectory, out past ~500 yards, give or take, heavy bullets have a flatter trajectory due to a higher Ballistic Coefficient. Higher the BC, the less velocity you lose due to wind resistance.
 
That's wrong.
A Heavy bullet drops at the same rate as a light one, Gravity has the same acceleration regardless of weight. The trajectory is the affected thing. Closer to the muzzle, a lighter bullet has a flatter trajectory, out past ~500 yards, give or take, heavy bullets have a flatter trajectory due to a higher Ballistic Coefficient. Higher the BC, the less velocity you lose due to wind resistance.

interesting...ur a very smart guy, physics used to be my thing back in high school, but now it's a burst balloon! haha...thanks for the great explanation.

peace
 
bore sight should give a rough zero

zero rifle @ 100m. if possible have a buddy check with spotting scope and make adjustments on your scope. try to maintain the same shooting position between shots, dont put your rifle down. (hence buddy to check and adjust)

once your satisfied with zero, move to 200 if you wish.

you should clean barrel prior to shooting but there's no need to clean your barrel between shots.

make sure your scope is set for proper eye relief ( that should have been done when fitted and bore sighted)

1 to 3 zeroing rounds should be enough between adjustments ( no need to shoot 5 round groups beyond first 1 or 2 groups, ammo is $$$)

good luck have fun
 
thanks man, good advice

i actually zero'd it a week ago, and is superb in accuracy now

thanks all for your replies, thread may be closed if mods want to

peace
 
Shoot lots. Practice practice practice.

An easy form of practice for hunting accuracy is to get some paper pie plates and put them on the target backers at various ranges from 25 to 300 yards. Practice shooting at them offhand and kneeling. Those are the 2 positions you'll most often use while hunting. When you can put 2 shots in each pie plate consistently, you can hunt with confidence in your shooting ability.

Enjoy, and good shooting!
 
here's a question based on the premise of getting a new-to-you firearm.

when one receives their firearm, what are some things they should immediately do to ensure the operation and safety of it?

is there a checklist of items you should examine to ensure it's healthy and safe to use?

This is an excellent question, and I'm surprised did not generate more replies. When aquiring a used rifle the stock, particularly wood stocked rifles, should be checked for cracks. Due to the wood grain these cracks can be very difficult to see, but you might expect to see them at the tang directly behind the action and in the forearm directly ahead of the magazine. The more powerful the rifle, the better the chance that the stock has failed. A cracked stock can be repaired, and if pinned or cross bolted can end up stronger than the original, or it can be replaced, but it is not safe to continue shooting the rifle once the stock has failed. Stock screws need to be tight, and loose stock screws result in a failed stock and damaged bedding.

The crown should be free of dings. A damaged crown can be fixed, but the cost of repairing the crown should be reflected in the purchase price.

The trigger should be checked for safe operation. Moving the safety on and off should not drop the striker. A hunting rifle should be able to be dropped onto the butt from a height of one foot without dropping the striker. Working the action aggressively should not drop the striker. Neither should the trigger exhibit excessive amounts of creep, over travel, or pull weight.

If iron sights are mounted on the rifle they need to be in good condition to provide a good sight picture and be in good repair so that they can be adjusted for windage and elevation in a predictable manner.

Sling swivels need to be secure, and swivels installed in tupperware stocks should be viewed with suspicion.

Consider the outside condition of the used rifle prior to purchase. It will be obvious to see the rifle that has been cared for as opposed to the rifle that has been abused. Even a rifle that has seen heavy use will tell you if it has been looked after or neglected. The outside will often mirror what's on the inside.

Beware of home gunsmithing. A poor fitting recoil pad or badly burred screws could indicate hidden problems. Be on guard if the rifle you are handed is a military surplus gun that had the bolt handle heated with a cutting torch so it could be bent to clear a scope. Beware of scope mounting screw holes that don't line up, or a receiver with multiple holes drilled in it. If you can see brass that has been fired in the rifle it will tell you if the head space is within spec, or if the loads have been excessive. Reloaders who overload tend to be proud of their handloading finesse. "Yessir, this .300 Savage shoots just like a .300 Winchester! Just shake the primers out of the magazine before you reload!" Beware of rifles that are either too small or too weak for rechambered high pressure cartridges. Remember that used custom rifles, even very good ones, are not built to your specifications!
 
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