Greek Carcanos Converted to 6.5MS

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frank30

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Hello everyone,

I'm wondering how many of these carcanos are out there... I currently have these 3 in my collection along with another greek m91 coming from the US.

Greek m91/38 cavalry
Greek m91/24 TS
Greek M91 with a broad arrow and dated 43 with a KKD stamp

I believe the m91 was captured by the british in north Africa, sent to india, then given to Greece post ww2.

also I'm wondering if anyone knows why every long rifle ive seen has just the "E" while the carbines have the "E" along with 3 dots.

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Actually mine has the 3 dot and E. i tought you knew lol

Ganderite said:
I did not know the Greeks ever used what I thought was just an Italian rifle.

Were they made in this MS caliber, or converted?

Was this the source of the Eaton's sporters?
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From the little i know those we’re converted to 6.5ms after being suplied to the greek fighting the communist in the civil war post WW2
 
First Carcano I had, Italian ammo was unavailable and crap, so I just used 6.5x 54. No problem chambering it and worked well.

Grizz
 
These were given to greece post war or were of the rifles left behind by the italians, from what ive read the greeks shot regular carcano ammo in it aswell. they also shot 6.5 carcano in regular 1903 greek mannlichers. i guess when captured italian ammo went dry the greeks rechambered carcanos. someone please correct me if im wrong.
 
The Greeks did business with Breda starting in 1927 manufacturing a variation of the Greek model 1903 Mannlicher.

Following the Asia Minor Campaign (1919–22), the Greeks were in urgent need of serviceable weapons and tried to get Mannlicher–Schönauer rifles from every possible source in order to replace war losses (almost 50% were captured by the Turks). Starting in 1927, Greece received about 105,000 "Breda" marked Y1903/14/27 rifles. This Italian factory might have used Austrian captured parts and machinery, or more likely, might have just mediated on behalf of the Steyr factory, due to treaty restrictions with the Austrian weapons manufacturer. These rifles saw extensive use against the Italians and Germans in World War II and many passed to the resistance fighters and thence to the combatants of the Greek Civil War that followed. The last official contract was in 1930, when they received 25,000 more Y1903/14/30 carbines, this time directly from the Steyr factory.

From; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mannlicher–Schönauer

Also;

http://www.hungariae.com/Mann03.htm
 
these greek carcanos are regular italian rifles with the chamber reamed out for 6.5x54ms, they werent an italian contract for greece or anything like that, strictly captured weapons. the barrels are still the original .268. some carcanos actualy do better with .264 bullets. the bores can vary so itll depend on what the particular rifle prefers. does anyone other than ced1942 have one in thier collection that they may want to share pics of?
 
i dont know about the cooey carcanos, only the milsurps. these carcanos all have the italian barrels still and have not been stamped with any markings but the greek with no inserted sleeves present. (the m91 is marked tubata so it was shot out and had a sleeve put in rather than having the barrel changed but this is italian arsenal done, done the same way as the 6.5 vetterlis). all greek mannlicher rifles are .264 and italian/greek carcanos should be .268. These rifles are as they left greece. the greek E carcanos and austrian AZF conversions to 6.5MS are .268.
 
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