Grip size and trigger reach.... G17 vs CZ Shadow

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I haven't had a chance to handle a CZ Shadow yet.... and am wondering how it compares in grip size, and trigger reach to a Glock 17. Anyone out there own both who can offer any comparison? I have smallish hands.... and the G17 is definitely my limit, and perhaps even pushing it a bit.

I keep reading that the CZ trigger is not great for short fingers, but at the same time peple praise the ergos of the gun.
 
I just checked a G22 and a cz75. That should be the same no?
The trigger reach was about the same, I can comfortably place the trigger in the joint behind my finger pad. (I wear medium/large gloves) The grip on the g22 is bigger around than the cz and not near as comfortable.
 
i hate the glock17 grip. The CZ feels a lot slimmer and nicer in my hands.

I havnt gotten any trigger time on the cz, so I cant comment on that, but I do not like DAO glock triggers. just my 2 cents
 
The g17s only failing is it's huge ergonomically-handicapped brick-grip. The CZ grip, by comparison, feels great. The double-action trigger (unlike the Glock safe trigger) is a bit long, but I've got little hands for a man and I can reach it just fine. It would be a stretch to try to grab at it with my first joint, but then you shouldn't manipulate the trigger with that part of your hand anyways. The subsequent single-action trigger shots and trigger reset are very comfortably placed, just slightly forward of the average 1911 trigger I reckon.

I think 95 percent of people could agree that the CZ is a more comfortable grip.
 
The Glock grip is uncomfortable for me to the point of being painful after 150-175 rounds. The CZ grip is much more to MY liking. I am not putting down Glocks, the Glock does not fit me well.
 
CZ has a more oval shape than the Glock's rather squarish shape. Each fit's some folks' hands differently. It's a case of YMMV.

The triggers can't really be compared. It's pretty much apples and oranges. The CZ has a longer reach and longer pull than the Glock for the CZ's double action trigger pull. But for the single action pull other than the takeup the CZ has a much shorter pull with a much shorter reset than the Glock.

Obviously for some folks the double action pull may never be an issue unless you enter some IPSC or IDPA matches.
 
Handgun grips are not one size fits all. This is why the noobie should try out the grips on as many handguns as possible before purchasing. Shooting the guns would be even better. To simply tell someone to buy a ____________ is not doing the new guy or gal a service. I would have saved myself time and money if I knew this when I started shooting IPSC.
 
I have small hands and I cannot reach the CZ trigger or mag release without the thin aluminum grips installed. With those grips, the CZ is fantastic.

On the Glock, I can reach the trigger quite easily. It is still a shorter reach than the CZ even though the grip is blockier than the CZ.
 
Thanks for all the responses guys. I realize that one must handle a handgun before buying, I wouldn't buy one without doing so. But I am going to have to drive about an hour or more to handle one, so thought it would help to get an idea before making the trip.

One more thing I forgot to ask.... to all those who have replied so far, which of these two guns naturally shot dead center on the paper for you? Any sufferers of Glock's low-left-itis find the CZ shot dead center for them? Or did anyone find the reverse?
 
The CZ and Glock are equally accurate in my opinion. The low and left that people talk about from Glocks just takes practice to get used to. I personally like the big blocky sites on the Glock better. I have had a CZ, and Ruger SR9, a Ruger GP-100, and shot m&P's of all calibers, Baby Eagle(pretty much a CZ), almost every .22lr you can imagine, and found that I have done the best with my Glock. It just feels right and is easy to get a clear sight picture. when shooting for groups and taking my time the Glock is very impressive, it is when rapid firing that I get some drifting to the left. My second favourite is my GP-100. Even with hot .357 loads it was very accurate. I am shooting at a 50 foot bullseye range as well so this is not at 10 meters were talkin about. Now having said that this picture was taken at my outdoor range and is 5 rounds somewhere between 7 - 10 meters. First time I ever tried hard to get any sense of the Glocks accuracy after blasting through a few boxes like a child with a new toy.
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Thanks for the info. I always shot my Glocks low and left, but got excellent groups regardless. Would like to see if I can kick the low left problem as I loved my Glocks. What range do you belong to if you don't mind me asking? Silverdale?
 
CanuckShooter said:
.... to all those who have replied so far, which of these two guns naturally shot dead center on the paper for you? Any sufferers of Glock's low-left-itis find the CZ shot dead center for them? Or did anyone find the reverse?
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My CZ has no problems on this count but I do find that it is sensitive to where I put my finger on the trigger and will shoot slightly right or left if I don't put it where the gun wants the pressure to be.

I don't shoot Glocks a lot but this one time when I was at the range doing a round robin of about 7 guns along with my buddies from work I shot some model of Glock (19?) as part of the flow. I shot it well enough and dead on center that I had to rush back and shoot a magazine out of my own CZ, which was part of the line, to confirm that it was just the closeness of the targets that produced such a tight group. For a while I thought the Glock was actually BETTER than my beloved CZ.... :D As it turned out it matched it.

I tend to dislike Glocks but it's not because they don't shoot well. They are superb guns but I just don't like the looks, grip shape or feel of the trigger and slide release.
 
I like the CZ, but there is no way in hell my thumb could possibly reach that slide release.

The mag release is fine, but it takes some serious repositioning of the pistol to close the slide. I can hit the Glock's slide release without changing my grip.

Food for thought.
 
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