Grizzleys in Sheep Country

Like I always say, all one ever needs is a 7mm mag!;)
Win94 said:
I frequently haunt an Alaskan discussion forum. Regarding bears and what caliber, the old locals choose their .30-.30's over a .45-70 There is a discussion over there regarding .30-.30 vs the .45-70 The majority choose and use the .30-.30 These are folks that share there homesteads with big bears and folks that have been there and done that. Charging out of control bears hiding behind every tree and around every corner is highly exagerated. These folks that live off the grid in remote alaska are the first to agree. Amphib has it right about not feeling out of place or worried in big bear country with a .308 Win. Seems the internet has created quite a bit of "Bear Paranoia" throughout the intraweb.


.................Get a gun you like to carry and go kill a sheep. or go the knitting route.
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I think these forums make people crazy or bring out the crazy in people, I'm not sure which. I've killed 3 grizzly all with a .308 win and wouldn't hesitate to shoot my next with the same. Magnumitis is a curable disease people! LOL
When I sheep hunt I take what I want to shoot my sheep with not something to defend myself from the big scary boogie man bear. Spend enough time where the bears actually #### in the woods and you'll realize it isn't as bad and crazy as some would make out.
 
There is a differnece killing a grizz and killing a charging grizz.
Yes 308 can do the job but you do not see to many guides carrying them for back up.
Go with what you feel comfortable with and can shoot. No use carrying a 458 if you flinch and can not hit the side of a barn every time you pull the trigger- you would be better of with a 308 maybe then you could at least hit what you shooting at.
 
hithere said:
There is a differnece killing a grizz and killing a charging grizz.
Yes 308 can do the job but you do not see to many guides carrying them for back up.
Go with what you feel comfortable with and can shoot. No use carrying a 458 if you flinch and can not hit the side of a barn every time you pull the trigger- you would be better of with a 308 maybe then you could at least hit what you shooting at.
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True, but bullet placement is critical even with large guns in nasty situations, you want instantaneous results it often isn't a case of the animal dying from bleeding out that works here. One of the grizz was making a very fine attempt at adding my carcass to the moose carcass he had already claimed when I killed him. A 165 grain 308 bullet to the skull at point blank range changed his mind.
 
I know a fellow that shot a grizzly with a 30-30 Win in the same sort of situation one nice clean hole thru the center of the skull stopped it instantly.

Doesn't mean I will only carry a 30-30 because it can be done with a 30-30...
 
Sheep/Grizz

Camp Cook said:
Well actually the experienced guys can shoot a rifle that has a bit more recoil...
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Exactly, certainly not saying you need a cannon but if you shoot big ones all the time you can handle them like any other gun. I've hunted all over Northern B.C. and taken Moose and Elk in Grizzly country where we had Bears on our kills within a couple of days. I've had a few hairraising encounters but never had to pull the trigger. Use what you feel comfortable with but when I'm in Grizzly country I carry a Grizzly gun.
 
hithere said:
There is a differnece killing a grizz and killing a charging grizz.
Yes 308 can do the job but you do not see to many guides carrying them for back up.
Go with what you feel comfortable with and can shoot. No use carrying a 458 if you flinch and can not hit the side of a barn every time you pull the trigger- you would be better of with a 308 maybe then you could at least hit what you shooting at.
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I always figured guides who carried big bores, did so becuase it made their city slicker clients feel safer.
 
Camp Cook said:
Well actually the experienced guys can shoot a rifle that has a bit more recoil...
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Well this is where these threads usually run off the rails. There is no wrong answer here, pack whatever rifle you are good with, size doesn't matter one whit if you are no good with the gun. If big make you feel safer, pack it, but if I'm hunting sheep I can guarantee that I'll be packing a sheep rifle and the chance of encountering a grizzly will never figure into my choice.
 
My best friend that has about 7 sheep to his credit now has always carried his 270 Win and even shot one small grizzly with it.

He now carries a Rem 700 in 375 RUM with my 300gr Gameking & A-Frame loads this year alone he took an older fellow in on a sheep hunt in Northern BC this fellow got his sheep with a 7mm Mag there were grizzlies everywhere and he stated that he felt a lot better carry that 375 RUM when they were packing the sheep out, he also shot 1 6 point elk and stopped his buddies 6 point elk, and the last animal he shot with the 375 RUM this year was a limited entry buffalo.

He tells me that he will never go out with a small caliber rifle again unless there is someone in his group that he trusts carrying a larger caliber rifle for that not so rare just in case situation.

And now here for a laugh is yours truely actually shooting a 375 RUM with Rem factory 270gr bullets at a 25 yard target. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8F51OIw8A0&feature=channel_page

:D :D :D
 
Camp Cook said:
Well actually the experienced guys can shoot a rifle that has a bit more recoil...
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I'm hoping you're not serious and are just stiring the pot.

while this is true, experienced guys don't feel the need to hide behind huge magnums when they know a smaller, sensible rifle will do the job.


grizz must be getting meaner it seems. either that or everyone was killed instantly when hunting before the days or RUM.
 
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