Grizzly 8.5" lobbing slugs

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I had the 8.5" Grizzly out with some friends last week and we tried a box of Winchester 3" magnum slugs. Pretty brutal concussion, flash, noise, recoil, but everyone thought it was a hoot. The real problem was they were shooting some 12" high at 15 yards! Against a wooden board I had to aim several inches below just to put a shot onto it. Buckshot and target loads seemed to go where you pointed. Any thoughts on why this was happening?
 
I experience the same thing with my backpacker .410. Shoots a couple feet high, had to put a different front pin on it, and it still didn't do much :) I think it has something to do with the massive recoil in proportion to the barrel length, throwing the muzzle up before the shot is out.

As far as fixing it, i've seen guys braze a ramp for a rifle sight onto the barrel, and thread their bead into that :)
 
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I had the 8.5" Grizzly out with some friends last week and we tried a box of Winchester 3" magnum slugs. Pretty brutal concussion, flash, noise, recoil, but everyone thought it was a hoot. The real problem was they were shooting some 12" high at 15 yards! Against a wooden board I had to aim several inches below just to put a shot onto it. Buckshot and target loads seemed to go where you pointed. Any thoughts on why this was happening?
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user error?
flinch? poor cheek weld?

try with 2 3/4" foster slugs, and focus on proper shooting form.
3" slugs from an 8.5" shotgun is just retarded. brutal recoil aside, im sure most of the ballistic advantage is nullified by the fact that half the powder is being burned outside the barrel.
 
My Dlask 8.500" was shooting way high also . I put Scattergun Tech , Wilson , sights on it , ghost ring , adjustable . Be carefull with that . I'm point of aim , point of impact at 25 yards , but on the very last click of adjustment . Mine was shooting 2 feet high and switching from Brenneke 3 inch mags to 2 3/4" only resulted in a 5 inch change of elevation at 25 yards , not the 2 feet that i required . Mine is bear medicine so i don't even want to think about giving some front sight or burying the front sight behind the reciever to put a slug where i want it . If you do it , set the mount/ramp of the rear sight as high as possible with the ghost ring adjusted all of the way up before you drill and tap . You want maximum down adjustment of the ghost ring . I got there on the last click . Buddy has an indentical setup , gun and sights and he had to go to a taller front sight to get his point of impact all of the way down . Works for me .
 
That's perfect really, when the dead walk the earth, just aim centre mass...

You'll plug'em in the brainbox everytime!
 
I was doing the same thing with my 6.5" Dlask. A little "cheek weld" fixed the problem. And yes the 3" slugs are kind of a powder waster, but the looks on the fudds faces is pricless
 
I don't want to buy the argument that it was shooter error simply because it was me shooting some of them, and I'm not a novice shot. But I will admit that I may have been paying less attention to my cheek weld and more to the anticipation of the imminent assault on my right shoulder. I'm fairly confident the bead was as low as I could get it. Next time I'll try some 2 3/4" and see what happens.

Interestingly enough, the 3" magnum 00 buckshot hurt worse than the slugs did.
 
its the length of the barrel you have to compensate for it and shoot low, i have one and yes it does shoot high
 
My 8.5 grizz also shoots high, however a good cheek weld helps alot for me anyways. The cheapy Winchester 2 3/4" value pack slugs shot ok. Still had a dirty old fireball pop out!
 
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Almost all short barrel shotguns are going to shoot high. The natural taper of the barrel puts the front bead much lower than the reciever ridge.

The only good solution is to raise the front with a ramp sight.

Gas Can
 
Or put a red dot on the rail, Then you can adjust it properly.
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Gas Can said:
Almost all short barrel shotguns are going to shoot high. The natural taper of the barrel puts the front bead much lower than the reciever ridge.

The only good solution is to raise the front with a ramp sight.

Gas Can
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I agree that the solution is to raise the bead or front sight but I'm having a hard time figuring out how the natural taper of the barrel makes the bead lower as the barrel gets shorter?
 
I had the 8.5" Grizzly out with some friends last week and we tried a box of Winchester 3" magnum slugs. Pretty brutal concussion, flash, noise, recoil, but everyone thought it was a hoot. The real problem was they were shooting some 12" high at 15 yards! Against a wooden board I had to aim several inches below just to put a shot onto it. Buckshot and target loads seemed to go where you pointed.
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again, why is his buckshot not shooting high, only the 3" slugs?
are you telling me that there is a 1 foot difference in ballistics between a slug and buck at 15 yards?
as much as noone likes to admit it, this is likely shooter error. try shooting moderate 2 3/4" slugs instead of 3" magnums out of an 8" 5lb shotgun and you might not flinch so much.

incidentally, a short LOP stock can also make you shoot high, and without a rib on the shotgun it is difficult to notice why.
 
manbearpig said:
again, why is his buckshot not shooting high, only the 3" slugs?
are you telling me that there is a 1 foot difference in ballistics between a slug and buck at 15 yards?
as much as noone likes to admit it, this is likely shooter error. try shooting moderate 2 3/4" slugs instead of 3" magnums out of an 8" 5lb shotgun and you might not flinch so much.

incidentally, a short LOP stock can also make you shoot high, and without a rib on the shotgun it is difficult to notice why.
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X2. My DA Outlaw shoots both buckshot and slugs high (and left for the left barrel).

Slugs at 25 yards.

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Buckshot at 15 and 5 yards.

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