Grizzly thread LOCKED...

I don't think anyone was jumping on Foxer, Steven was just asking "why?"

BTW, Anyone who takes on the job of moding a forum must have thick skin and God knows that Warren has a bull-leather hide. :D
 
Oh for gods sake.

Will you guys grow up? Threads that have illegal content get locked - period. You guys know that. And if the guy's original post wasn't enough, gatehouse sealed the deal with his "i've never had a tag but i've hunted and shot 'em.' comment.

AND - i DID explain this in your pm srupp. If i get complaints about a thread it's going to have to be addressed, and you guys all KNOW how GT feels about illegal discussions on this board, period full stop.

I was kind enough to leave it up and not delete it so the guy could send pm's to anyone whom he wanted to ask more questions of.

But it's REALLY inappropriate to start a thread bashing me for following the rules. C'mon. Don't want to see threads locked, don't post illegal crap in it. How hard is that?
 
Foxer I APOLOGIZE . I didnt mean to run you down, that was never my intention..and I am SORRY If folks here got the wrong impression, I did NOT mean to cause a ruckus.:redface: I was just trying to ask why???

I wanted to give the guy the benifit of the doubt in case he didnt know what he was suggesting was illegal.And maybe I came accross too strong ..

As I said in my PM..you have a difficult position and its not my place to judge you..I thought I was stating an oppinion..OF COURSE I respect you AND your decision I dont need to understand..thats the way it is.

I am sure you have done a LOT for the hunting community even if just keeping us rag tag lot in check..I just took offense after 20 hours this week doing snow level checks..road and slide checks..and map work and talking long distance at my expense to help a dozen bear hunters for this springs hunting..and have been doing this for 10 -15 years...for other animals also..to be " told" I cant express my opinion and I havnt contributed...I am doing the best I can and that STUNG...personally.

I appreciate you left it up so perhaps he could rethink..repost..and we all could learn..however your decision is final..I do understand that.

There are others that do far more than i do.. however I am doing the best I can...

Steven
 
It's no sweat bud, it's all good. And it ain't a competition, everyone who's doing what they can for the community is great in my books. It's just a case of I get a complaint, i gotta follow the rules. GT is anal about nothing illegal at all or even the hint of it, no matter how innocent the intent.

You wanna get a mod worked up, ask slavex if you can import a scope into canada without a permit :D
 
Foxer said:
Oh for gods sake.

W. And if the guy's original post wasn't enough, gatehouse sealed the deal with his "i've never had a tag but i've hunted and shot 'em.' comment.

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Meaning I have gone hunting for grizzly with friends with tags, and have backed them up, as is often customary. All nice and legit.
 
How about importing little personal-sized battery operated fans to take to hunting camp?
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Only illegal if you attach it to the rifle :D

hmmm.... actually....


Oh yeah, I heard about that!
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I'm sure :) i should really sell my life story one of these days - yes, everyone will still laugh at me regular enough, but at least i'd get paid for it... :D (the fan worked awesome btw, you doubting thomas you!)

...still, anyone named Warren can't be ALL bad......
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Well that's MY take on it too! :D
 
Meaning I have gone hunting for grizzly with friends with tags, and have backed them up, as is often customary. All nice and legit.
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I think that's best discussed elsewhere. While it is customary, and certanly i have no problem with it, if you actually check the regs and definition of hunting it's not strictly legal. To 'hunt' an animal, you are required to have a valid license and tag for that animal. And like i said, this really isn't the place. To be honest, i'm tempted to suggest we should just edit all reference to it out of our posts now that i think about it.
 
Gatehouse - i'm not sure what part of 'no illegal discussions' is confusing you.

IF you are breaking the law and you feel that the co's are fine with that or whatever, that's up to you, but you won't be discussing it on this board. I hope that's clear enough.
 
"Backing up," someone shooting a grizzly has always been a sore spot. Away back in time there were many guided hunters who got furious when their guide "backed them up," by shooting their grizzly as soon as the paid hunter fired one shot. The guides excuse was he didn't want to follow a wounded grizzly.
The BC Game Dept. responded by making it illegal for a guide to even carry a rifle while guiding. This was in effect in 1946 when I got my first BC hunting licence. It wasn't just guiding for grizzly, but all guiding, because there were too many reports of the guide shooting the game. I don't know when this law was dropped, but I presume it is no longer in effect.
 
Guys, why not get rid off this thread and the other one alltogether? While I really can't say with any certainty that the original poster was inferring on doing anything purposely illegal, I do think the responses to/from others and their alleged illegal activities should be removed from the forum.

...just doesn't look good.
 
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Gatehouse - i'm not sure what part of 'no illegal discussions' is confusing you.

IF you are breaking the law and you feel that the co's are fine with that or whatever, that's up to you, but you won't be discussing it on this board. I hope that's clear enough.
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Nothing I said in the post you deleted woudl be considered "Illegal" by anyone else but you...
 
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"Backing up," someone shooting a grizzly has always been a sore spot. Away back in time there were many guided hunters who got furious when their guide "backed them up," by shooting their grizzly as soon as the paid hunter fired one shot. The guides excuse was he didn't want to follow a wounded grizzly.
The BC Game Dept. responded by making it illegal for a guide to even carry a rifle while guiding. This was in effect in 1946 when I got my first BC hunting licence. It wasn't just guiding for grizzly, but all guiding, because there were too many reports of the guide shooting the game. I don't know when this law was dropped, but I presume it is no longer in effect.
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The grizzly guides I know only shoot to "back up" thier client if they think things are getting out of hand, or they feel that the wounded grizz may escape.

All of them are adamant that they won't shoot unless they have to.:)
 
Nothing I said in the post you deleted woudl be considered "Illegal" by anyone else but you...
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I've got a call into the ministry to verify - if they say you're right then i'll appologize and repost it.

If they say I'm right - would you like me to pass your number and the pics you've posted here of that hunt and such on to them so you can discuss it further? After all - no one will care right?

According to one guy i've spoken to there's actually a few laws broken there - and the ministry is QUITE serious about it. But hey - maybe he's wrong.

Seems to me tho that putting a bullet into an animal you don't have a tag for is pretty obviously illegal. As i understand it, the ministry freaks about it now because it would be easy to have people 'sell' tags by charging someone 1000 bucks and then they shoot and you claim they were "just backing you up".

And frankly - it's illegal. You've already said as much. our rules don't say ' only talk about illegal stuff we approve of' - it says 'no discussing illegal activities'.

That shouldn't be difficult to understand.
 
OK I'll bite, and maybe this thread will end up locked yet because of it, but....

Back up/Second Shot: Is it legal if you do not have a tag or party tag? Is it legal if your tag does not go on the animal? I have always thought it was illegal, even though a lot do it locally with moose. Is dangerous game/grizzlies different? Are their different rules for guides?

I always thought if it is my tag, then I shoot it only, am I wrong?
 
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Back up/Second Shot: Is it legal if you do not have a tag or party tag? Is it legal if your tag does not go on the animal? I have always thought it was illegal, even though a lot do it locally with moose. Is dangerous game/grizzlies different? Are their different rules for guides?
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It is illegal. It WOULD be legal to drop a bear if it turned and charged you. If you were 'backing someone up' and they shot a bear and the bear charged, that'd be one thing. But to just put another round into it because it might run away, that'd be hunting. And it's illegal unless you have a tag.

If you have a tag, the last guy who shot it cuts his tag. That's the law. If you don't have a tag - you just killed an animal you don't have a tag for. You can imagine how that would be abused, and that's why the ministry actually DOES get bent out of shape about it.

But i'll ask the guy from the co's office about it precisely when he calls. Maybe they do make exceptions for grizzlies or something.
 
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