The hornet is a wonderful little cartridge, really fun! I started with 22LR, then Hornet, then 222rem, then 22/250. I don't have any more fun with the 22/250 but you don't need to be as close. I used to live in Benmiller near Goderich and hosted a Hog Derby annually, our best count in one day was 800. If you know any older guys in that area they can verify this. Guys came from miles around and we gave fantastic prizes, donated by farmers, insurance Companies etc. One year First price was 4 truck tires , mounted and balanced. DOES ANYBODY OUT THERE REMEMBER THESE DERBIES? Jim. THE BENMILLER KILLER. My partner and I won it several years running and yes you had to bring them home to count! Uugghh