"Groups" - Q

[unclearthur]

When you'all make reference to the size of groups that your rifle shoots, is there a standard way the gun is being held? The forestock on a bench and the rifle otherwise held freehand? Or something else?

Also, what is your experience on how your "groups" change from other positions - ie if you shoot 2" groups from a bench, how do you do sitting, kneeling or standing?

For me I feel pretty sharp sitting at a bench but standing I'm all over the map.

 

[cyclone]

For me I feel pretty sharp sitting at a bench but standing I'm all over the map.

Guily of that myself. With standing, it is even more important to time the breathing and the aiming, or so I've found. Relax when you shoot, and you'll do great.

Oh, and a .177 pellet rifle is the best training for standing shots I've come across so far.

 

[cz452shooter]

When most people are referring to groups they shoot with a gun it is off the bench with a front and rear rest. Other positions are really more dependent on the shooter, not the rifle. I usually though can shoot about 10 shots into an 1.5-2"" or at 25 yards offhand. Maybe about 1.25-1.5" kneeling and maybe 1" or so prone. Takes lots of practice to get good standing. With my shooting equipment on though (boots, pants, jacket, etc) using my feinwerkbau I usually average about 5 shots into about 1.5" or so at 50m standing... So good equipment makes a bit of a difference as well.

 

[unclearthur]

That sounds like great shooting to me. Others ?

 

[icedragonmx]

I dont always have a range to play at so I shoot my groups out in the back 40 and use a foam mat and bipod. My left hand sits between the stock and the ground(like a rear pad) and the best I can get is sub-1/2moa at 100yards. I would love to spend some time on a bench to see how it tightens up the groups(front and rear pads ect).

 

[.88 magnum]

I think you need to find out what your gun can do. Use a bench, steady it with any equipment available, and see what your gun can do at its best. Then when you shoot without the aid of a bench, you know what you are cabable of. EDIT I just noticed my "newbie" status is gone!

 

[Wilfred]

and what are you shooting there might I ask?

 

[BigBadBlair]

I dont always have a range to play at so I shoot my groups out in the back 40 and use a foam mat and bipod. My left hand sits between the stock and the ground(like a rear pad) and the best I can get is sub-1/2moa at 100yards. I would love to spend some time on a bench to see how it tightens up the groups(front and rear pads ect).

Nice! What kind of scope is that?

 

[catnthehatt]

Nice! What kind of scope is that?

By the look of the turrets it's a 3200 Bushnell on a Savage , I may be wrong however.
Whenever I am talking about groups I state whether or not the target was shot from the bench or other position.
Groups usually only matter as far as the rifle is concerned.
Score is usually how position matches are scored.
Cat

 

[22lr]

Uclear Thur, when somebody on these forums mention "group" it is 99 out of 100 just reference to rifle inherent accuracy. Means rifle is steadied somehow - sandbags or vise. Rgarding your shooting - practice in standing position ahead of everything else, do some reading first though. That will win you a few matches.

 

[icedragonmx]

Nice! What kind of scope is that?

A Bushnell 4200 Tactical 6x24x50 with the 30mm tubes on a Savage 12Fvss in .223. Great for target shooting I just need some sandbags and I will be GTG. I think a "group" should include info on the stance(bench, prone, sitting ect) If you want to find the potential on the rifle you need to get a solid bench and sandbags ect so that you remove as much movement as possible. I know for a fact that I cant hit anything standing upright but thats not the rifles fault Need more practice

 

[catnthehatt]

Missed the side focus!
Cat

 

[taffman]

Missed the side focus!
Cat

It will get easier with more experience..LOL...