grouse gun

Hmmm - good point re the steel shot - I had a box I was planning to use this year but hadn't considered the increased likelyhood of ricochets... I'll stick to the copper washed lead.
 
ratherbefishin: Yes the 18½" barrel security model. I carry it with me when I'm out bow hunting on a single point Lone Star Rig. Now that high power season has opened here I don't take it out with me but the short barrel carries nicely with the single point and keeps it handy for self defense.
 
Condor-from what I've been able to learn here, an open choke seems desireable for shooting grouse on roadsides-and if thats what the maverick security shotgun has,plus the short barrel,it sounds like an ideal grouse gun,as long as you used light loads[I was leaning towards the 20 guage-so as not to be overgunned-but if the same results can be obtained by using light loads,that may be an ideal solution]
 
Yes it's an open choke on the security model. It does handle fast and once the slides have been sprayed and worked with some G96 it feeds very smoothly. I like the safety on it more than the 500 or 870 tang safeties only because I leave a round in the chamber when I'm walking and don't feel as safe with the tang safety. The other nice thing is that it only costs $220 vs $500 for nearly the same shotgun in the 500 Mariner.

As far as shot goes I use a #6 lead shot in a 2¾" shell. I tried a few #6 steel shot the opening day of upland and it did the job but a couple of grouse weren't as dead as they should have been. I haven't taken a shot at a grouse past 25 yards though. Haven't really noticed any farther than that either.

PS- Should mention that the trigger isn't what a person would call "good". It takes getting used to and you won't fire one of these without meaning to. Definitely don't want to use this for deer hunting, only bear defense.
 
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if you specifically wanted an open choked grouse gun-would it be acceptable to cut the barrel,effectively removing the choke section?
 
Go for it. I personally wouldn't bother cutting down a barrel but if that's what you want to do who's to say otherwise. The only thing you might like is to get a properly fit shotgun if you plan to only take them on the wing. Not that you can't take a good number with what ever shotgun you have, just the recoil and thus follow up shots on more than one bird are easier.

An open choke is likely the best for shooting grouse but I wouldn't get all hung up over it. A full choke could just as easily be used to make head shots on grouse the same as a .22
 
the average ground sluiced grouse is generally well under 50' and I don't want to blow them to bits with a tight choke.I'm just thinking of the full and modified choke might be too destructive
 
I was in the area... took some better pics of the grouse statue.

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I was just looking at the Marlin site-and NEF has an updated version of the ''survivor''-called the ''Tamer''in 20 guage-synthetic stock,nickle plated reciever and barrel[20'']-stock holds 3 extra shells-looks just the ticket for something to throw in the truck on the chance of seeing a chicken on the roadside,and you can always have a slug in your pocket if you see a deer.
Now-the bad news-nobody seems to have it in Canada.I called Epps-they don't have it but they do have a 20 guage-30/30 combo in a synthetic stock for $299.I guess you could always get an aftermarket ''Tamer'' stock from Choate-$31,I believe,and then you would have both 20 guage and a 30/30 -not bad either
 
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ratherbefishin said:
I was just looking at the Marlin site-and NEF has an updated version of the ''survivor''-called the ''Tamer''in 20 guage-synthetic stock,nickle plated reciever and barrel[20'']-stock holds 3 extra shells-looks just the ticket for something to throw in the truck on the chance of seeing a chicken on the roadside,and you can always have a slug in your pocket if you see a deer.
Now-the bad news-nobody seems to have it in Canada.I called Epps-they don't have it but they do have a 20 guage-30/30 combo in a synthetic stock for $299.I guess you could always get an aftermarket ''Tamer'' stock from Choate-$31,I believe,and then you would have both 20 guage and a 30/30 -not bad either
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If you buy a NEF action for one of their rifles you can buy any rifle or shotgun barrel for that action. I want to get a tamer stock, 308 barrel and a 12ga barrel.

the shotgun actions do not work with rifle barrels, so better to buy a rifle and get an aftermarket shotgun barrel, more versitile
 
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