Grouse Gun
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If you miss hitting the head just the concussion from the shock waves of the bullet on a high powered rifle will either knock them out or kill them if the bullet passes close enough.
Be aware that using a high powered rifle on upland game birds may not be legal in your area even with handloaded reduced grouse loads.
Be aware that using a high powered rifle on upland game birds may not be legal in your area even with handloaded reduced grouse loads.
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Last fall I was up in the PG area moose hunting and a guy came along with his wife and couple of kids out for a drive,looking for ''chickens''-who is going to say that wasn't the ''correct'' way of shooting grouse?He had a single shot NEF 20 guage as I recall.
''I would consider it to be quite risky going bird hunting with big game hunters in the vicinity..and on top not a sensible thing to bring the family along''-how could you say that?Its not like people had to skip rope to avoid bullets whizzing around.
I told the guy[who stopped to offer me a lift] I sure liked to see a man take his wife and kids along for a ride and to bag a chicken or two-good family time
I told the guy[who stopped to offer me a lift] I sure liked to see a man take his wife and kids along for a ride and to bag a chicken or two-good family time
Ahsan Ahmed
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
ratherbefishin said:
Allow me rephrase - first, personally nothing against big game and bird hunters being in the area. However, should the bird hunter be visible or at close proximity then he/she may become a cause of interruption, unwittingly of course. On the other hand, not being visbile (despite wearing orange) poses a certain amount of risk to the bird hunter from a waiting deer/moose hunter.
While it's more enjoyable taking the family out on a hunt that may not be the most sensible thing to expose them as such during big game season unless one is absolutely sure of safety. One would be more at ease should such outings take place after deer season is over, for example......subject to personal decision of course. It would only take a single bullet to cause irreparable damage.
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I do agree with you that anybody out in the woods during hunting season should use common sense-like not wearing brown clothing .I have seen hikers out in tan and brown clothing-and when told they were endangering themselves-they took great umbrage at being told they should change the way they dressed because of ''hunters out looking to kill innocent animals''
However, in the case I am refering to, the dad was simply driving logging roads
However, in the case I am refering to, the dad was simply driving logging roads
So a guy shouldn't take his family out grouse hunting during big game season because some tool isn't responsible enough to know what he is looking at/shooting at? That's gotta be the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. It's like saying that I shouldn't take my kids for a walk because some drunk driver might jump the curb and hit them. Good grief. The man took his family out for a good time and got them out doing some hunting.
Telling people that aren't hunting to change their clothes and behaivours because someone is hunting in the area gives hunters a bad image too. It makes us all seem like trigger happy slobs who don't care enough to know what we are shooting at. No wonder people get defensive and start to berate hunters.
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Telling people that aren't hunting to change their clothes and behaivours because someone is hunting in the area gives hunters a bad image too. It makes us all seem like trigger happy slobs who don't care enough to know what we are shooting at. No wonder people get defensive and start to berate hunters.
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sorry-its just common sense if you are going to walk in the bush in deer season to dress accordingly-doesn't matter if you have the right to do whatever you want, dress however you want, and go wherever you want-all it takes is one mistaken identity,even if irresponsable and totally unjustified.I remember reading of one guy who almost shot a black bear across a clearcut-until the ''black bear'' stood up,it was a women dressed in black, berry picking.Thankfully scopes and binoculars make for absolutely positive identity
Reminds me of the ditty''here lies the body of Johnathon Long, who was right, dead right as he walked along-but he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong''
I used to take my family camping and berry picking on opening day-until we ran into a bunch of drunken slobs who were jumping out of their truck and shooting off into the bush[I was driving behind them,and I didn;'t see any deer]Anyway, that was the last time we went there.You can't protect yourself against a drunk-especially if he has a rifle in his hands.
Reminds me of the ditty''here lies the body of Johnathon Long, who was right, dead right as he walked along-but he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong''
I used to take my family camping and berry picking on opening day-until we ran into a bunch of drunken slobs who were jumping out of their truck and shooting off into the bush[I was driving behind them,and I didn;'t see any deer]Anyway, that was the last time we went there.You can't protect yourself against a drunk-especially if he has a rifle in his hands.
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I usually use a 17HMR light and accurate. While rabbit hunting I use a 12 ga I keep a few #6 in my pocket for grouse. Last year I used a .303 when my uncle was #####ing me out for missing a deer. One shot at 50yds and the head came right off.
Sam Steele said:
Sadly this can be the case in many areas of Canada.
I have been shot at while mushroom picking in a no hunt area wearing blaze orange. And many hunters I talk to here in BC all have close call stories, even our Core course instructor said took and arrow in the back once.
Also everyone has mixed feelings about whether it is safer to be seen or not.
I know after the other stuff I have seen the past few years in our area I'm not bringing any of our dogs hunting, as even in blaze orange doggy vests someone would prob' try to use them for target practice.
that's the shame of it-the usual few slobs give everyone else a bad reputation-but fortionately, it seems like along with the general decline in hunting- so also the incidents of yahoos seem to be fewer.Personally I just love to get out with my boys,and really like to see young fellows taking their wife and kids out -even if it is ''road hunting''.Hunting trips can be a fly in back pack expedition-or just a drive on a country road with a 22 looking for a grouse-its all good clean recreation,and in my opinion-the guy who takes his family out is actually doing more for the sport than the high end hunter
Sam Steele said:
I think thats a bit of a stretch. It would be more like saying "kids, in the car you should wear your seatbelts because there's a chance someone could hit us"
I don't even like bird hunting myself in an area where there are big game hunters. If I think there is anyone in the area, I'll go somewhere else. There's idiots out there in every facet of life, including hunting. I'm not comfortable taking that sort of risk and would certainly not be comfortable bringing my kids into that area.
For birds on the wing of course there's no other choice but the shotgun. For walks in the woods with no particular purpose, I like to carry a light semi 22lr with a red dot (ground shots only).
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